# New faceting implementation for 1.0 - planning resources when using 0.90.x now **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [May 9, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899 "2013-05-09T12:10:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lukas_vlcek1/32/819_2.png) [@Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lukas_Vlcek1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/1 "2013-05-09T12:10:09Z")
Hi, I am interested in learning more about planned new faceting implementation(s) that might appear in ES 1.0 release. All I know about new faceting implementation is based on the following comments: > > More specifically, if I plan to go to production with 0.90.x is there any recommendation or estimate about how much resources I need to keep around to allow for easy upgrade to 1.0 later? Can we expect that there will be added a new facet implementation(s) next to existing one or the new will replace the old? What kind of impact this might have on memory and index size requirements when using some of existing facets after 1.0 is released? Regards, Lukas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/2 "2013-05-09T15:34:00Z")
I referenced the same comment after I read it as well: [https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/elasticsearch/HfbdBvi91dA](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/elasticsearch/HfbdBvi91dA) I'm guessing that the Lucene 4 transition opened up a few new avenues for facets. I have been holding off writing my own facets since I do not want to do work twice. -- Ivan On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Lukáš Vlček [lukas.vlcek@gmail.com](mailto:lukas.vlcek@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi, > > I am interested in learning more about planned new faceting > implementation(s) that might appear in ES 1.0 release. > All I know about new faceting implementation is based on the following > comments: > > [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17566680) > > [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17636880) > > More specifically, if I plan to go to production with 0.90.x is there any > recommendation or estimate about how much resources I need to keep around > to allow for easy upgrade to 1.0 later? > > Can we expect that there will be added a new facet implementation(s) next > to existing one or the new will replace the old? What kind of impact this > might have on memory and index size requirements when using some of > existing facets after 1.0 is released? > > Regards, > Lukas > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lukas_vlcek1/32/819_2.png) [@Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lukas_Vlcek1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/3 "2013-05-09T17:38:34Z")
Ivan, implementing custom facets is one thing but I am more into planning HW resources for the future. For example, I want to go into production with 0.90.x and I need to specify my HW requirements now. I can do my best to plan it based on current 0.90 performance. But I would like to account for planned upgrade to 1.0 in the future without need to request servers with different setup. All I would like to know is if there is any recommendation or estimate in this regard. Regards, Lukas On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > I referenced the same comment after I read it as well: > [Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/elasticsearch/HfbdBvi91dA) > > I'm guessing that the Lucene 4 transition opened up a few new avenues for > facets. I have been holding off writing my own facets since I do not want > to do work twice. > > -- > Ivan > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Lukáš Vlček [lukas.vlcek@gmail.com](mailto:lukas.vlcek@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am interested in learning more about planned new faceting > > implementation(s) that might appear in ES 1.0 release. > > All I know about new faceting implementation is based on the following > > comments: > > > > [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17566680) > > > > [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17636880) > > > > More specifically, if I plan to go to production with 0.90.x is there any > > recommendation or estimate about how much resources I need to keep around > > to allow for easy upgrade to 1.0 later? > > > > Can we expect that there will be added a new facet implementation(s) next > > to existing one or the new will replace the old? What kind of impact this > > might have on memory and index size requirements when using some of > > existing facets after 1.0 is released? > > > > Regards, > > Lukas > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/4 "2013-05-09T18:03:00Z")
I cannot imagine that hardware requirements would be increased by any new facet implementations. If anything, leveraging the new Lucene features such as DocValues will only improve things. v0.90.x should already be a huge improvement (if you fall under the high-cardinality use case) although I have yet to do any testing. My comment about my comment was to simply state that I also have questions about the 1.0 release and it would be great if the team can chime in. -- Ivan On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Lukáš Vlček [lukas.vlcek@gmail.com](mailto:lukas.vlcek@gmail.com) wrote: > Ivan, > > implementing custom facets is one thing but I am more into planning HW > resources for the future. For example, I want to go into production with > 0.90.x and I need to specify my HW requirements now. I can do my best to > plan it based on current 0.90 performance. But I would like to account for > planned upgrade to 1.0 in the future without need to request servers with > different setup. > > All I would like to know is if there is any recommendation or estimate in > this regard. > > Regards, > Lukas > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote: > > > I referenced the same comment after I read it as well: > > [Redirecting to Google Groups](https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/elasticsearch/HfbdBvi91dA) > > > > I'm guessing that the Lucene 4 transition opened up a few new avenues for > > facets. I have been holding off writing my own facets since I do not want > > to do work twice. > > > > -- > > Ivan > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Lukáš Vlček [lukas.vlcek@gmail.com](mailto:lukas.vlcek@gmail.com)wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am interested in learning more about planned new faceting > > > implementation(s) that might appear in ES 1.0 release. > > > All I know about new faceting implementation is based on the following > > > comments: > > > > > > [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17566680) > > > > > > [Support Hierarchical Facets · Issue #1076 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/1076#issuecomment-17636880) > > > > > > More specifically, if I plan to go to production with 0.90.x is there > > > any recommendation or estimate about how much resources I need to keep > > > around to allow for easy upgrade to 1.0 later? > > > > > > Can we expect that there will be added a new facet implementation(s) > > > next to existing one or the new will replace the old? What kind of impact > > > this might have on memory and index size requirements when using some of > > > existing facets after 1.0 is released? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Lukas > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "elasticsearch" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > > an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![jprante](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jprante/32/44941_2.png) [@jprante](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jprante)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/5 "2013-05-09T19:49:36Z")
+1 I would like to know how/when to start implementing equidistant/non-equidistant date histograms. Not that I can promise an implementation now, but I'm in a state of limbo because I am also obligated to migrate to ES 1.0 as soon as it's there. Jörg Am 09.05.13 17:34, schrieb Ivan Brusic: > I'm guessing that the Lucene 4 transition opened up a few new avenues > for facets. I have been holding off writing my own facets since I do > not want to do work twice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![ywtsang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@ywtsang](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/ywtsang)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 10:10am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/6 "2013-07-18T10:10:19Z")
I am sorry if it is not appropriate to dig an old message again, but I also want to find out what will happen to the 1.0 and can just come up with this message and also want to hear if there is any update about the questions mentioned here. I am also in a stage that want to launch a new elasticsearch cluster to production. We have started the development for nearly 1 year starting from version 0.19.\* and just upgrade to 0.90.\* But if 1.0 is near to release, I also want to migrate to 1.0 directly before putting my new elasticsearch cluster to production. On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:49:36 AM UTC+8, Jörg Prante wrote: > +1 > > I would like to know how/when to start implementing > equidistant/non-equidistant date histograms. Not that I can promise an > implementation now, but I'm in a state of limbo because I am also > obligated to migrate to ES 1.0 as soon as it's there. > > Jörg > > Am 09.05.13 17:34, schrieb Ivan Brusic: > > > I'm guessing that the Lucene 4 transition opened up a few new avenues > > for facets. I have been holding off writing my own facets since I do > > not want to do work twice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lukas_vlcek1/32/819_2.png) [@Lukas\_Vlcek1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Lukas_Vlcek1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/7 "2013-07-18T10:42:28Z")
Hi, I believe that [Issues · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub](https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/issues/3300is) related to this question. (kudos to @uboness for this detailed writeup) The way I understand it is that ES 1.0.0 will likely contain existing [legacy?] faceting and new aggregations code as well. So I would say that if your (or mine) code sticks to existing faceting then we should [hopefully] not see any significant memory/perf changes once 1.0.0 is released. Only if we switch to new aggregations then the things could change. I would expect that it will take some time for the aggregations code to settle. But definitely aggregations look very cool. Regards, Lukas On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Yiu Wing TSANG [ywtsang@gmail.com](mailto:ywtsang@gmail.com) wrote: > I am sorry if it is not appropriate to dig an old message again, but I > also want to find out what will happen to the 1.0 and can just come up with > this message and also want to hear if there is any update about the > questions mentioned here. > > I am also in a stage that want to launch a new elasticsearch cluster to > production. We have started the development for nearly 1 year starting from > version 0.19.\* and just upgrade to 0.90.\* > > But if 1.0 is near to release, I also want to migrate to 1.0 directly > before putting my new elasticsearch cluster to production. > > On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:49:36 AM UTC+8, Jörg Prante wrote: > > > +1 > > > > I would like to know how/when to start implementing > > equidistant/non-equidistant date histograms. Not that I can promise an > > implementation now, but I'm in a state of limbo because I am also > > obligated to migrate to ES 1.0 as soon as it's there. > > > > Jörg > > > > Am 09.05.13 17:34, schrieb Ivan Brusic: > > > > > I'm guessing that the Lucene 4 transition opened up a few new avenues > > > for facets. I have been holding off writing my own facets since I do > > > not want to do work twice. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/new-faceting-implementation-for-1-0-planning-resources-when-using-0-90-x-now/11899/8 "2017-07-06T02:25:47Z")