# Newbie quesiton re: document size & score **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [April 23, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/newbie-quesiton-re-document-size-score/11673 "2013-04-23T21:10:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tieg\_Zaharia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/tieg_zaharia/32/2375_2.png) [@Tieg\_Zaharia](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Tieg_Zaharia)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/newbie-quesiton-re-document-size-score/11673/1 "2013-04-23T21:10:10Z")
Hey all, I'm pretty new to ES still and have a scoring question: Is there a way to disable/counteract Lucene's preference to score shorter documents higher? For example, if I have: - document A and B in an index - I do a match query for term X - doc A matches 1 time, and doc b matches 2 times - however, in the ES results, A scores higher because it is slightly shorter than B (despite B having more matches). I'm curious if there's a way to ignore document length so a document with more matches scores higher inevitably? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![simonw\_2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/simonw_2/32/1130_2.png) [@simonw\_2](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/simonw_2)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/newbie-quesiton-re-document-size-score/11673/2 "2013-04-23T21:32:12Z")
there are multiple ways to do this, the simplest is to set "omit\_norm" : true in the mapping which will omit the normalization info for that field. see: [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/mapping/core-types/) simon On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:10:10 PM UTC+2, Tieg Zaharia wrote: > Hey all, I'm pretty new to ES still and have a scoring question: > > Is there a way to disable/counteract Lucene's preference to score shorter > documents higher? > > For example, if I have: > > - document A and B in an index > - I do a match query for term X > - doc A matches 1 time, and doc b matches 2 times > - however, in the ES results, A scores higher because it is slightly > shorter than B (despite B having more matches). > > I'm curious if there's a way to ignore document length so a document with > more matches scores higher inevitably? > > Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Tieg\_Zaharia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/tieg_zaharia/32/2375_2.png) [@Tieg\_Zaharia](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Tieg_Zaharia)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/newbie-quesiton-re-document-size-score/11673/3 "2013-04-24T16:20:05Z")
omit\_norms is perfect! Thanks simonw. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:32 PM, simonw [simon.willnauer@elasticsearch.com](mailto:simon.willnauer@elasticsearch.com)wrote: > there are multiple ways to do this, the simplest is to set "omit\_norm" : > true in the mapping which will omit the normalization info for that field. > see: [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/mapping/core-types/) > > simon > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:10:10 PM UTC+2, Tieg Zaharia wrote: > > > Hey all, I'm pretty new to ES still and have a scoring question: > > > > Is there a way to disable/counteract Lucene's preference to score shorter > > documents higher? > > > > For example, if I have: > > > > - document A and B in an index > > - I do a match query for term X > > - doc A matches 1 time, and doc b matches 2 times > > - however, in the ES results, A scores higher because it is slightly > > shorter than B (despite B having more matches). > > > > I'm curious if there's a way to ignore document length so a document with > > more matches scores higher inevitably? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/topic/elasticsearch/zHbRacGGYS8/unsubscribe?hl=en-US](https://groups.google.com/d/topic/elasticsearch/zHbRacGGYS8/unsubscribe?hl=en-US) > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/newbie-quesiton-re-document-size-score/11673/4 "2017-07-06T02:39:44Z")