# No JVMs were found APM

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-jvms-were-found-apm/318177
**Category:** APM
**Tags:** java, server, open-telemetry
**Created:** [November 4, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-jvms-were-found-apm/318177 "2022-11-04T10:16:53Z")
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### Author: ![stephenb](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/stephenb/32/40856_2.png) [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-jvms-were-found-apm/318177/3 "2022-11-06T17:34:32Z")

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Perhaps this?

> [@Missing JVM Metrics with Opentelemetry](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/missing-jvm-metrics-with-opentelemetry/315099):
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> Kibana version: 8.3.3 Elasticsearch version: 8.3.3 APM Server version: 8.3.3 Opentelemetry java agent: 1.18.0 Steps to reproduce: Setup Elasticsearch, Kibana & APM server 8.3.3 Setup Opentelemetry collector to export otlp to Elastic APM Instrumented java application using opentelemetry-javaagent Configure application to export oltp telemetry data to Opentelemetry collector Hi, I have this setup going: java application (otlp) -\> Opentelemetry Collector -\> Elastic APM Everything looks fin…

And / Or are you adding the correct modules to collect the JVM Metrics?

> **[Java](https://opentelemetry.io/docs/instrumentation/java/)**
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> A language-specific implementation of OpenTelemetry in Java.

- [opentelemetry-java-contrib](https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-java-contrib): Provides helpful libraries and standalone OpenTelemetry-based utilities that don’t fit the express scope of the OpenTelemetry Java or Java Instrumentation projects. For example, JMX metric gathering.

I am running 8.4.3 and do not see JVM but I have not added the contrib JMX so I am a little confused as well... I will try 8.5.0 and see what I see.... Nope I do not see in 8.5.0 as well...

Perhaps @alexander.wert can help both of us 🙂

Do we need something besides just the base Java OTEL Agent? [here](https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-java-instrumentation#getting-started)

Do we need to run the jmx contrib as a separate process?

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