#  No Observable Difference Between BBQ and Default Configurations in Elasticsearch – Help with Index Size Comparison

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-observable-difference-between-bbq-and-default-configurations-in-elasticsearch-help-with-index-size-comparison/377817>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-machine-learning, vector-search\
**Created:** [May 5, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-observable-difference-between-bbq-and-default-configurations-in-elasticsearch-help-with-index-size-comparison/377817 "2025-05-05T14:04:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 8:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-observable-difference-between-bbq-and-default-configurations-in-elasticsearch-help-with-index-size-comparison/377817/7 "2025-06-27T08:22:57Z")

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Hi @BenTrent ,

thanks for sharing your insights and sorry for injecting questions/comments here.

1. Keeping raw floating point values around `_source` seems to be inefficient approach, like discussed in [Knn\_vectors field understanding - Elastic Stack / Elasticsearch - Discuss the Elastic Stack](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/knn-vectors-field-understanding/374923/4), right?
2. If we don't keep raw floating point values around `_source`, the values are still persist by underlaying Lucene, right? Would it be fine if we fetch values from Lucene for rescoring purpose?
3. For re-quantizing and segment merging, may I ask whether we indeed need to keep the raw floating point values for any type of quantization? And how the re-quantization works? would be appreciated if you could share any resources.

Thanks a lot and looking forward for your reply.

Best,  
Yakun

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