# No X-PACK plugins loaded by default?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-x-pack-plugins-loaded-by-default/224270>\
**Category:** Elastic Cloud on Kubernetes (ECK)\
**Created:** [March 19, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-x-pack-plugins-loaded-by-default/224270 "2020-03-19T13:21:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![doctor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/doctor/32/64648_2.png) [@doctor](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/doctor)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-x-pack-plugins-loaded-by-default/224270/1 "2020-03-19T13:21:02Z")

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Hey,

I read that in ECK, the X-PACK plugins were already loaded.

But when I try `GET /_cat/plugins` I get nothing.

Is this because X-PACK is not in the style of plugins anymore and its already there as core funtionnalities or I just don't have any X-PACK plugings and need to install them ?

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Using ECK v1.0  
Env: On premise

Thx

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**Author:** ![Thibault\_Richard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/thibault_richard/32/50513_2.png) [@Thibault\_Richard](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Thibault_Richard)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-x-pack-plugins-loaded-by-default/224270/2 "2020-04-09T12:21:12Z")

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X-Pack and plugins are two different things.

X-Pack is an Elastic Stack extension that provides security, alerting, monitoring, reporting, machine learning, and many other capabilities. By default, when you install Elasticsearch, X-Pack is installed.

[https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/7.6/setup-xpack.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/7.6/setup-xpack.html)

Plugins are a way to enhance the basic Elasticsearch functionality in a custom manner.

[https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/plugins/7.6/index.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/plugins/7.6/index.html)

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**Author:** ![doctor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/doctor/32/64648_2.png) [@doctor](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/doctor)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-x-pack-plugins-loaded-by-default/224270/3 "2020-04-09T12:52:18Z")

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Thanks for your answer.

I have being misled by the sentence "xpack plugin" which I saw here and there...

Now everything's clear.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 7:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/no-x-pack-plugins-loaded-by-default/224270/4 "2022-11-04T07:49:54Z")

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