# Not specifying Id and replication characteristics **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [September 12, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/not-specifying-id-and-replication-characteristics/13578 "2013-09-12T20:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ashwin\_Sathya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@Ashwin\_Sathya](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ashwin_Sathya)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/not-specifying-id-and-replication-characteristics/13578/1 "2013-09-12T20:40:48Z")
Hi, I have setup a simple 3-node cluster with just 1 shard and 2 replica per index. And I am not specifying the id, during indexing. Indexing seems to create three different copies of the same item with a different \_id on each of the replicas. I am not sure what is happening. Is this the default behavior ? How does this affect search queries ? Will I be getting duplicating results when I query ? Should I start specifying the id myself ? Thanks, Ashwin Sathya -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/not-specifying-id-and-replication-characteristics/13578/2 "2013-09-12T20:44:17Z")
I'm not sure I understood: You ran only one index call and you have 3 documents with different IDs, I mean elasticsearch \_id ? If so, could you gist a curl recreation of what you did so far? -- David Pilato | Technical Advocate | [Elasticsearch.com](http://Elasticsearch.com) @dadoonet | @elasticsearchfr | @scrutmydocs Le 12 sept. 2013 à 22:40, R Ashwin Sathya [ashwin.sathya@outlook.com](mailto:ashwin.sathya@outlook.com) a écrit : > Hi, > > I have setup a simple 3-node cluster with just 1 shard and 2 replica per index. And I am not specifying the id, during indexing. > Indexing seems to create three different copies of the same item with a different \_id on each of the replicas. I am not sure what is happening. > > Is this the default behavior ? How does this affect search queries ? Will I be getting duplicating results when I query ? > Should I start specifying the id myself ? > > ## Thanks, Ashwin Sathya > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ashwin\_Sathya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@Ashwin\_Sathya](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ashwin_Sathya)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/not-specifying-id-and-replication-characteristics/13578/3 "2013-09-12T21:02:49Z")
Unfortunately I won't be able to right now. When I don't specify a \_id, during a PUT call, \_id is automatically assigned by Elasticsearch. Now how does the replication treat this document ? Its just creates a copy or indexes as a separate document ? * * * From: David Pilato[mailto:david@pilato.fr](mailto:david@pilato.fr) Sent: 13-09-2013 02:14 To: [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)[mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Not specifying Id and replication characteristics I'm not sure I understood: You ran only one index call and you have 3 documents with different IDs, I mean elasticsearch \_id ? If so, could you gist a curl recreation of what you did so far? -- David Pilato | Technical Advocate | [Elasticsearch.com](http://Elasticsearch.com) @dadoonet | @elasticsearchfr | @scrutmydocs Le 12 sept. 2013 à 22:40, R Ashwin Sathya [ashwin.sathya@outlook.com](mailto:ashwin.sathya@outlook.com) a écrit : > Hi, > > I have setup a simple 3-node cluster with just 1 shard and 2 replica per index. And I am not specifying the id, during indexing. > Indexing seems to create three different copies of the same item with a different \_id on each of the replicas. I am not sure what is happening. > > Is this the default behavior ? How does this affect search queries ? Will I be getting duplicating results when I query ? > Should I start specifying the id myself ? > > ## Thanks, Ashwin Sathya > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/not-specifying-id-and-replication-characteristics/13578/4 "2013-09-12T21:09:41Z")
It creates somehow copies. I mean that you won't see duplicates as when you search only one shard is hit (primary or replica) Makes sense? -- David 😉 Twitter : @dadoonet / @elasticsearchfr / @scrutmydocs Le 12 sept. 2013 à 23:02, R Ashwin Sathya [ashwin.sathya@outlook.com](mailto:ashwin.sathya@outlook.com) a écrit : Unfortunately I won't be able to right now. When I don't specify a \_id, during a PUT call, \_id is automatically assigned by Elasticsearch. Now how does the replication treat this document ? Its just creates a copy or indexes as a separate document ? From: David Pilato Sent: 13-09-2013 02:14 To: [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Not specifying Id and replication characteristics I'm not sure I understood: You ran only one index call and you have 3 documents with different IDs, I mean elasticsearch \_id ? If so, could you gist a curl recreation of what you did so far? -- David Pilato | Technical Advocate | [Elasticsearch.com](http://Elasticsearch.com) @dadoonet | @elasticsearchfr | @scrutmydocs Le 12 sept. 2013 à 22:40, R Ashwin Sathya [ashwin.sathya@outlook.com](mailto:ashwin.sathya@outlook.com) a écrit : > Hi, > > I have setup a simple 3-node cluster with just 1 shard and 2 replica per index. And I am not specifying the id, during indexing. > Indexing seems to create three different copies of the same item with a different \_id on each of the replicas. I am not sure what is happening. > > Is this the default behavior ? How does this affect search queries ? Will I be getting duplicating results when I query ? > Should I start specifying the id myself ? > > ## Thanks, Ashwin Sathya > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ## -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Ashwin\_Sathya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5ac83/32.png) [@Ashwin\_Sathya](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ashwin_Sathya)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/not-specifying-id-and-replication-characteristics/13578/5 "2013-09-12T21:16:49Z")
Okay. Now makes sense. Thanks!! * * * From: David Pilato[mailto:david@pilato.fr](mailto:david@pilato.fr) Sent: 13-09-2013 02:39 To: [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)[mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Not specifying Id and replication characteristics It creates somehow copies. I mean that you won't see duplicates as when you search only one shard is hit (primary or replica) Makes sense? -- David 😉 Twitter : @dadoonet / @elasticsearchfr / @scrutmydocs Le 12 sept. 2013 à 23:02, R Ashwin Sathya [ashwin.sathya@outlook.com](mailto:ashwin.sathya@outlook.com) a écrit : Unfortunately I won't be able to right now. When I don't specify a \_id, during a PUT call, \_id is automatically assigned by Elasticsearch. Now how does the replication treat this document ? Its just creates a copy or indexes as a separate document ? From: David Pilato Sent: 13-09-2013 02:14 To: [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com) Subject: Re: Not specifying Id and replication characteristics I'm not sure I understood: You ran only one index call and you have 3 documents with different IDs, I mean elasticsearch \_id ? If so, could you gist a curl recreation of what you did so far? -- David Pilato | Technical Advocate | [Elasticsearch.com](http://Elasticsearch.com) @dadoonet | @elasticsearchfr | @scrutmydocs Le 12 sept. 2013 à 22:40, R Ashwin Sathya [ashwin.sathya@outlook.com](mailto:ashwin.sathya@outlook.com) a écrit : > Hi, > > I have setup a simple 3-node cluster with just 1 shard and 2 replica per index. And I am not specifying the id, during indexing. > Indexing seems to create three different copies of the same item with a different \_id on each of the replicas. I am not sure what is happening. > > Is this the default behavior ? How does this affect search queries ? Will I be getting duplicating results when I query ? > Should I start specifying the id myself ? > > ## Thanks, Ashwin Sathya > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ## -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/not-specifying-id-and-replication-characteristics/13578/6 "2017-07-06T02:16:47Z")
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