# Object creation at runtime
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [October 11, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603 "2017-10-11T19:16:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@havidarou](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/havidarou)
#### Post date: [October 11, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603/1 "2017-10-11T19:16:30Z")
Hi, I am developing an app type plugin.
I'd like to create objects by code.
You use request to /api/saved\_objects/type to create them, but I am worry it won't work if I use these request directly in case x-pack is installed, so I've searched further down the code.
And saw you use "kibana/src/ui/public/saved\_objects/saved\_objects\_client.js" internally to do this.
What and how should I include to use this in my app?
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@tylersmalley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tylersmalley)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603/2 "2017-10-12T14:18:58Z")
Can you give some more information on the type of objects you're wanting to create?
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### Author:  [@havidarou](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/havidarou)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603/3 "2017-10-12T16:45:50Z")
I want to create visualizations, searches and dashboards.
I was already doing this by sending a standard request to elasticsearch, but since Kibana 6.0.0 uses an internal ID, I can't do that, so I ended up doing what I said in the first post.
Regards.
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### Author:  [@tylersmalley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tylersmalley)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603/4 "2017-10-12T16:52:47Z")
As of 5.6, there is a SavedObject REST API which there are also clients for.
There is some information in this [comment here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/pull/12648#issuecomment-313137183) on how to use the REST API.
The route definitions are located [here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/tree/master/src/server/saved_objects/routes)
If you want to use the client, the server-side client is located [here](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/blob/master/src/server/saved_objects/client/saved_objects_client.js), and the browser-side client is what you previously pointed to.
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### Author:  [@tylersmalley](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tylersmalley)
#### Post date: [October 12, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603/5 "2017-10-12T16:54:33Z")
One thing to note, in addition to using unique ID's, in 6.0 (and in 5.6 after a [migration](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/6.0/migrating-6.0-index.html)) we no longer use types in Elasticsearch.
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### Author:  [@havidarou](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/havidarou)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603/6 "2017-10-15T17:31:25Z")
I was wondering, what about x-pack, can we use this REST API without the credentials? And, if we indeed need them...how can we retrieve them in code?
Regards.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/object-creation-at-runtime/103603/7 "2017-11-12T17:31:34Z")
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