# Organizing data for Elasticsearch and Kibana

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/organizing-data-for-elasticsearch-and-kibana/22750>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [March 19, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/organizing-data-for-elasticsearch-and-kibana/22750 "2015-03-19T02:10:24Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/organizing-data-for-elasticsearch-and-kibana/22750/1 "2015-03-19T02:10:24Z")

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I have inserted some data into elastic search using REST interface.An  
example is shown below.

```
curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/metrics/" -d @$file
curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/aaaaaaa/" -d @$file
curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/bbbbbbb/" -d @$file
curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ccccccc/" -d @$file
curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ddddddd/" -d @$file

```

I basically insert `5` object types which are

```
metrics
aaaaaaa
bbbbbbb
ccccccc
ddddddd

```

All these object types are inserted into the same index `bits`. The data is  
inserted at regular intervals of say 30 mins, Meaning I add a set of JSON  
document every 30 mins to each of the above five types. However only on of  
my object type's have `timestamp` as a part of JSON data. I am using  
elasticsearch 1.4 and Kibana 3. I can't seem to sepcify the `index` for the  
Kibana dashboard. It does expect a timestamp value.

Because of this I suspect I am limited in the kinds of graphs that I can  
plot.I would like to plot dual axis graphs and some time series data.Is  
this correct assumption?

Is the `index` that Kibana is looking for the same as the `index` in  
elasticsearch. In other words Should I rather use the timestamp value (of  
when I load the data into elasticsearch) as the elasticsearch rather than  
some constant value like `bits` used in the above example.

As my data does not have the timestamp inherently, What format should my  
timestamp (that I am supposed to use as the `index` have, If I should)

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KB reads data from Elasticsearch, so yeah an index is the same thing for  
both.

Basically you either need a timestamp in your docs to use KB3, or move to  
KB4.

On 18 March 2015 at 19:10, Karthik Sharma [karthik.sharma@gmail.com](mailto:karthik.sharma@gmail.com) wrote:

> I have inserted some data into Elasticsearch using REST interface.An  
> example is shown below.
> 
> ```
> curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/metrics/" -d @$file
> curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/aaaaaaa/" -d @$file
> curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/bbbbbbb/" -d @$file
> curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ccccccc/" -d @$file
> curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ddddddd/" -d @$file
> 
> ```
> 
> I basically insert `5` object types which are
> 
> ```
> metrics
> aaaaaaa
> bbbbbbb
> ccccccc
> ddddddd
> 
> ```
> 
> All these object types are inserted into the same index `bits`. The data  
> is inserted at regular intervals of say 30 mins, Meaning I add a set of  
> JSON document every 30 mins to each of the above five types. However only  
> on of my object type's have `timestamp` as a part of JSON data. I am using  
> elasticsearch 1.4 and Kibana 3. I can't seem to sepcify the `index` for the  
> Kibana dashboard. It does expect a timestamp value.
> 
> Because of this I suspect I am limited in the kinds of graphs that I can  
> plot.I would like to plot dual axis graphs and some time series data.Is  
> this correct assumption?
> 
> Is the `index` that Kibana is looking for the same as the `index` in  
> elasticsearch. In other words Should I rather use the timestamp value (of  
> when I load the data into elasticsearch) as the elasticsearch rather than  
> some constant value like `bits` used in the above example.
> 
> As my data does not have the timestamp inherently, What format should my  
> timestamp (that I am supposed to use as the `index` have, If I should)
> 
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**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/organizing-data-for-elasticsearch-and-kibana/22750/3 "2015-03-21T05:25:59Z")

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How will moving to KB4 help in this case? Will it unlock the option of  
plotting dual axis graphs?

Regards  
Karthik.

On Friday, 20 March 2015 05:52:46 UTC+13, Mark Walkom wrote:

> KB reads data from Elasticsearch, so yeah an index is the same thing for  
> both.
> 
> Basically you either need a timestamp in your docs to use KB3, or move to  
> KB4.
> 
> On 18 March 2015 at 19:10, Karthik Sharma \<[karthik...@gmail.com](mailto:karthik...@gmail.com)  
> \<javascript:\>\> wrote:
> 
> > I have inserted some data into Elasticsearch using REST interface.An  
> > example is shown below.
> > 
> > ```
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/metrics/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/aaaaaaa/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/bbbbbbb/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ccccccc/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ddddddd/" -d @$file
> > 
> > ```
> > 
> > I basically insert `5` object types which are
> > 
> > ```
> > metrics
> > aaaaaaa
> > bbbbbbb
> > ccccccc
> > ddddddd
> > 
> > ```
> > 
> > All these object types are inserted into the same index `bits`. The data  
> > is inserted at regular intervals of say 30 mins, Meaning I add a set of  
> > JSON document every 30 mins to each of the above five types. However only  
> > on of my object type's have `timestamp` as a part of JSON data. I am using  
> > elasticsearch 1.4 and Kibana 3. I can't seem to sepcify the `index` for the  
> > Kibana dashboard. It does expect a timestamp value.
> > 
> > Because of this I suspect I am limited in the kinds of graphs that I can  
> > plot.I would like to plot dual axis graphs and some time series data.Is  
> > this correct assumption?
> > 
> > Is the `index` that Kibana is looking for the same as the `index` in  
> > elasticsearch. In other words Should I rather use the timestamp value (of  
> > when I load the data into elasticsearch) as the elasticsearch rather than  
> > some constant value like `bits` used in the above example.
> > 
> > As my data does not have the timestamp inherently, What format should my  
> > timestamp (that I am supposed to use as the `index` have, If I should)
> > 
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KB4 doesn't specifically require time series data.

On 21 March 2015 at 16:25, Karthik Sharma [karthik.sharma@gmail.com](mailto:karthik.sharma@gmail.com) wrote:

> How will moving to KB4 help in this case? Will it unlock the option of  
> plotting dual axis graphs?
> 
> Regards  
> Karthik.
> 
> On Friday, 20 March 2015 05:52:46 UTC+13, Mark Walkom wrote:
> 
> > KB reads data from Elasticsearch, so yeah an index is the same thing for  
> > both.
> > 
> > Basically you either need a timestamp in your docs to use KB3, or move to  
> > KB4.
> > 
> > On 18 March 2015 at 19:10, Karthik Sharma [karthik...@gmail.com](mailto:karthik...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > I have inserted some data into Elasticsearch using REST interface.An  
> > > example is shown below.
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/metrics/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/aaaaaaa/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/bbbbbbb/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ccccccc/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ddddddd/" -d @$file
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > 
> > > I basically insert `5` object types which are
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > metrics
> > > aaaaaaa
> > > bbbbbbb
> > > ccccccc
> > > ddddddd
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > 
> > > All these object types are inserted into the same index `bits`. The data  
> > > is inserted at regular intervals of say 30 mins, Meaning I add a set of  
> > > JSON document every 30 mins to each of the above five types. However only  
> > > on of my object type's have `timestamp` as a part of JSON data. I am using  
> > > elasticsearch 1.4 and Kibana 3. I can't seem to sepcify the `index` for the  
> > > Kibana dashboard. It does expect a timestamp value.
> > > 
> > > Because of this I suspect I am limited in the kinds of graphs that I can  
> > > plot.I would like to plot dual axis graphs and some time series data.Is  
> > > this correct assumption?
> > > 
> > > Is the `index` that Kibana is looking for the same as the `index` in  
> > > elasticsearch. In other words Should I rather use the timestamp value (of  
> > > when I load the data into elasticsearch) as the elasticsearch rather than  
> > > some constant value like `bits` used in the above example.
> > > 
> > > As my data does not have the timestamp inherently, What format should my  
> > > timestamp (that I am supposed to use as the `index` have, If I should)
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**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/organizing-data-for-elasticsearch-and-kibana/22750/5 "2015-03-25T20:15:29Z")

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When you mention timestamp in my docs, Do you mean that I actually replace  
the Elasticsearch 'index' with timestamp. If yes is there a python library  
perhaps that does that for me?

Regards,  
Karthik.

On Friday, 20 March 2015 05:52:46 UTC+13, Mark Walkom wrote:

> KB reads data from Elasticsearch, so yeah an index is the same thing for  
> both.
> 
> Basically you either need a timestamp in your docs to use KB3, or move to  
> KB4.
> 
> On 18 March 2015 at 19:10, Karthik Sharma \<[karthik...@gmail.com](mailto:karthik...@gmail.com)  
> \<javascript:\>\> wrote:
> 
> > I have inserted some data into Elasticsearch using REST interface.An  
> > example is shown below.
> > 
> > ```
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/metrics/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/aaaaaaa/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/bbbbbbb/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ccccccc/" -d @$file
> > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ddddddd/" -d @$file
> > 
> > ```
> > 
> > I basically insert `5` object types which are
> > 
> > ```
> > metrics
> > aaaaaaa
> > bbbbbbb
> > ccccccc
> > ddddddd
> > 
> > ```
> > 
> > All these object types are inserted into the same index `bits`. The data  
> > is inserted at regular intervals of say 30 mins, Meaning I add a set of  
> > JSON document every 30 mins to each of the above five types. However only  
> > on of my object type's have `timestamp` as a part of JSON data. I am using  
> > elasticsearch 1.4 and Kibana 3. I can't seem to sepcify the `index` for the  
> > Kibana dashboard. It does expect a timestamp value.
> > 
> > Because of this I suspect I am limited in the kinds of graphs that I can  
> > plot.I would like to plot dual axis graphs and some time series data.Is  
> > this correct assumption?
> > 
> > Is the `index` that Kibana is looking for the same as the `index` in  
> > elasticsearch. In other words Should I rather use the timestamp value (of  
> > when I load the data into elasticsearch) as the elasticsearch rather than  
> > some constant value like `bits` used in the above example.
> > 
> > As my data does not have the timestamp inherently, What format should my  
> > timestamp (that I am supposed to use as the `index` have, If I should)
> > 
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I mean you need a field in your document containing a timestamp.

On 26 March 2015 at 07:15, Karthik Sharma [karthik.sharma@gmail.com](mailto:karthik.sharma@gmail.com) wrote:

> When you mention timestamp in my docs, Do you mean that I actually replace  
> the Elasticsearch 'index' with timestamp. If yes is there a python library  
> perhaps that does that for me?
> 
> Regards,  
> Karthik.
> 
> On Friday, 20 March 2015 05:52:46 UTC+13, Mark Walkom wrote:
> 
> > KB reads data from Elasticsearch, so yeah an index is the same thing for  
> > both.
> > 
> > Basically you either need a timestamp in your docs to use KB3, or move to  
> > KB4.
> > 
> > On 18 March 2015 at 19:10, Karthik Sharma [karthik...@gmail.com](mailto:karthik...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > I have inserted some data into Elasticsearch using REST interface.An  
> > > example is shown below.
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/metrics/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/aaaaaaa/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/bbbbbbb/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ccccccc/" -d @$file
> > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ddddddd/" -d @$file
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > 
> > > I basically insert `5` object types which are
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > metrics
> > > aaaaaaa
> > > bbbbbbb
> > > ccccccc
> > > ddddddd
> > > 
> > > ```
> > > 
> > > All these object types are inserted into the same index `bits`. The data  
> > > is inserted at regular intervals of say 30 mins, Meaning I add a set of  
> > > JSON document every 30 mins to each of the above five types. However only  
> > > on of my object type's have `timestamp` as a part of JSON data. I am using  
> > > elasticsearch 1.4 and Kibana 3. I can't seem to sepcify the `index` for the  
> > > Kibana dashboard. It does expect a timestamp value.
> > > 
> > > Because of this I suspect I am limited in the kinds of graphs that I can  
> > > plot.I would like to plot dual axis graphs and some time series data.Is  
> > > this correct assumption?
> > > 
> > > Is the `index` that Kibana is looking for the same as the `index` in  
> > > elasticsearch. In other words Should I rather use the timestamp value (of  
> > > when I load the data into elasticsearch) as the elasticsearch rather than  
> > > some constant value like `bits` used in the above example.
> > > 
> > > As my data does not have the timestamp inherently, What format should my  
> > > timestamp (that I am supposed to use as the `index` have, If I should)
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I use the following script to enable timestamps for all of my document  
types inside my id 'bits'. when I visualize it using Kibana3, I can't seem  
to find timestamp field come up there. Am I doing somethign wrong? Do I  
need to do something more?

curl -XPOST localhost:9200/bits -d '{  
"mappings" : {  
"_default_":{  
"\_timestamp" : {  
"enabled" : true,  
"store" : true  
}  
}  
}  
}'

On Thursday, 26 March 2015 09:49:19 UTC+13, Mark Walkom wrote:

> I mean you need a field in your document containing a timestamp.
> 
> On 26 March 2015 at 07:15, Karthik Sharma \<[karthik...@gmail.com](mailto:karthik...@gmail.com)  
> \<javascript:\>\> wrote:
> 
> > When you mention timestamp in my docs, Do you mean that I actually  
> > replace the Elasticsearch 'index' with timestamp. If yes is there a python  
> > library perhaps that does that for me?
> > 
> > Regards,  
> > Karthik.
> > 
> > On Friday, 20 March 2015 05:52:46 UTC+13, Mark Walkom wrote:
> > 
> > > KB reads data from Elasticsearch, so yeah an index is the same thing for  
> > > both.
> > > 
> > > Basically you either need a timestamp in your docs to use KB3, or move  
> > > to KB4.
> > > 
> > > On 18 March 2015 at 19:10, Karthik Sharma [karthik...@gmail.com](mailto:karthik...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I have inserted some data into Elasticsearch using REST interface.An  
> > > > example is shown below.
> > > > 
> > > > ```
> > > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/metrics/" -d @$file
> > > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/aaaaaaa/" -d @$file
> > > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/bbbbbbb/" -d @$file
> > > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ccccccc/" -d @$file
> > > > curl -XPOST "http://xxx.xx.xx.xx:9200/bits/ddddddd/" -d @$file
> > > > 
> > > > ```
> > > > 
> > > > I basically insert `5` object types which are
> > > > 
> > > > ```
> > > > metrics
> > > > aaaaaaa
> > > > bbbbbbb
> > > > ccccccc
> > > > ddddddd
> > > > 
> > > > ```
> > > > 
> > > > All these object types are inserted into the same index `bits`. The  
> > > > data is inserted at regular intervals of say 30 mins, Meaning I add a set  
> > > > of JSON document every 30 mins to each of the above five types. However  
> > > > only on of my object type's have `timestamp` as a part of JSON data. I am  
> > > > using elasticsearch 1.4 and Kibana 3. I can't seem to sepcify the `index`  
> > > > for the Kibana dashboard. It does expect a timestamp value.
> > > > 
> > > > Because of this I suspect I am limited in the kinds of graphs that I  
> > > > can plot.I would like to plot dual axis graphs and some time series data.Is  
> > > > this correct assumption?
> > > > 
> > > > Is the `index` that Kibana is looking for the same as the `index` in  
> > > > elasticsearch. In other words Should I rather use the timestamp value (of  
> > > > when I load the data into elasticsearch) as the elasticsearch rather than  
> > > > some constant value like `bits` used in the above example.
> > > > 
> > > > As my data does not have the timestamp inherently, What format should  
> > > > my timestamp (that I am supposed to use as the `index` have, If I should)
> > > > 
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