# Phrase query, using shingles(index\_phrases) results in inconsistent results with the default query method
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-query-using-shingles-index-phrases-results-in-inconsistent-results-with-the-default-query-method/382625
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [October 13, 2025, 8:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-query-using-shingles-index-phrases-results-in-inconsistent-results-with-the-default-query-method/382625 "2025-10-13T08:26:34Z")
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### Author:  [@fangqingsong](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/fangqingsong)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2025, 8:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-query-using-shingles-index-phrases-results-in-inconsistent-results-with-the-default-query-method/382625/1 "2025-10-13T08:26:34Z")
ES 9.1.3, geonames datasets, index name is “field-name-index-phrase-geonames”
```auto
health status index uuid pri rep docs.count docs.deleted store.size pri.store.size dataset.size
green open field-name-index-phrase-geonames wWbyhMZwQeOeyV2Lvjy8Ng 3 0 11396503 0 2.5gb 2.5gb 2.5gb
```
curl -XGET "[http://localhost:9200/field-name-index-phrase-geonames/\_search](http://localhost:9200/field-name-index-phrase-geonames/_search)" -H 'Content-Type: application/json' -d'
{
"size": 2,
"track\_total\_hits": true,
"profile": true,
"query": {
"match\_phrase": {
"name": "hall of jehovahs"
}
}
}'
field “name” mappings like:
```json
{
"field-name-index-phrase-geonames": {
"mappings": {
"name": {
"full_name": "name",
"mapping": {
"name": {
"type": "text",
"fields": {
"raw": {
"type": "text",
"analyzer": "standard"
}
},
"analyzer": "standard",
"index_phrases": true
}
}
}
}
}
}
```
default match\_phrase result is:
```json
{
"took": 2,
"timed_out": false,
"_shards": {
"total": 3,
"successful": 3,
"skipped": 0,
"failed": 0
},
"hits": {
"total": {
"value": 1033,
"relation": "eq"
},
"max_score": 12.395212,
"hits": [
{
"_index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"_id": "ktLihJkB4j3NtqEkX57g",
"_score": 12.395212,
"_source": {
"geonameid": 5280410,
"name": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"asciiname": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"feature_class": "S",
"feature_code": "CH",
"country_code": "US",
"admin1_code": "WV",
"admin2_code": "029",
"population": 0,
"elevation": 237,
"dem": "235",
"timezone": "America/New_York",
"location": [
-80.58424,
40.40618
]
}
},
{
"_index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"_id": "fB7ihJkB4j3NtqEkr2r8",
"_score": 12.395212,
"_source": {
"geonameid": 6335206,
"name": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"asciiname": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"feature_class": "S",
"feature_code": "CH",
"country_code": "US",
"admin1_code": "NY",
"admin2_code": "071",
"population": 0,
"elevation": 80,
"dem": "85",
"timezone": "America/New_York",
"location": [
-74.03778,
41.50917
]
}
}
]
},
"profile": {
"shards": [
{
"id": "[eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw][field-name-index-phrase-geonames][0]",
"node_id": "eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw",
"shard_id": 0,
"index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"cluster": "(local)",
"searches": [
{
"query": [
{
"type": "PhraseQuery",
"description": "name:\"hall of jehovahs\"",
"time_in_nanos": 831416,
"breakdown": {
"set_min_competitive_score_count": 0,
"match_count": 344,
"shallow_advance_count": 0,
"set_min_competitive_score": 0,
"next_doc": 212406,
"match": 148057,
"next_doc_count": 351,
"score_count": 344,
"compute_max_score_count": 0,
"compute_max_score": 0,
"advance": 0,
"advance_count": 0,
"count_weight_count": 0,
"score": 65117,
"build_scorer_count": 17,
"create_weight": 254116,
"shallow_advance": 0,
"count_weight": 0,
"create_weight_count": 1,
"build_scorer": 151720
}
}
],
"rewrite_time": 8479,
"collector": [
{
"name": "QueryPhaseCollector",
"reason": "search_query_phase",
"time_in_nanos": 192624,
"children": [
{
"name": "TopScoreDocCollector",
"reason": "search_top_hits",
"time_in_nanos": 164083
}
]
}
]
}
],
"aggregations": [
],
"fetch": {
"type": "fetch",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 161875,
"breakdown": {
"load_stored_fields": 78132,
"load_source": 210,
"load_stored_fields_count": 2,
"next_reader_count": 1,
"load_source_count": 2,
"next_reader": 11589
},
"debug": {
"stored_fields": [
"_id",
"_routing",
"_source"
]
},
"children": [
{
"type": "FetchFieldsPhase",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 6730,
"breakdown": {
"process_count": 2,
"process": 2470,
"next_reader": 4260,
"next_reader_count": 1
}
},
{
"type": "FetchSourcePhase",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 1610,
"breakdown": {
"process_count": 2,
"process": 1440,
"next_reader": 170,
"next_reader_count": 1
},
"debug": {
"fast_path": 2
}
},
{
"type": "StoredFieldsPhase",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 730,
"breakdown": {
"process_count": 2,
"process": 360,
"next_reader": 370,
"next_reader_count": 1
}
}
]
}
},
{
"id": "[eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw][field-name-index-phrase-geonames][1]",
"node_id": "eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw",
"shard_id": 1,
"index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"cluster": "(local)",
"searches": [
{
"query": [
{
"type": "PhraseQuery",
"description": "name:\"hall of jehovahs\"",
"time_in_nanos": 949434,
"breakdown": {
"set_min_competitive_score_count": 0,
"match_count": 332,
"shallow_advance_count": 0,
"set_min_competitive_score": 0,
"next_doc": 261512,
"match": 163762,
"next_doc_count": 340,
"score_count": 332,
"compute_max_score_count": 0,
"compute_max_score": 0,
"advance": 0,
"advance_count": 0,
"count_weight_count": 0,
"score": 76974,
"build_scorer_count": 18,
"create_weight": 259805,
"shallow_advance": 0,
"count_weight": 0,
"create_weight_count": 1,
"build_scorer": 187381
}
}
],
"rewrite_time": 17109,
"collector": [
{
"name": "QueryPhaseCollector",
"reason": "search_query_phase",
"time_in_nanos": 232327,
"children": [
{
"name": "TopScoreDocCollector",
"reason": "search_top_hits",
"time_in_nanos": 198590
}
]
}
]
}
],
"aggregations": [
]
},
{
"id": "[eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw][field-name-index-phrase-geonames][2]",
"node_id": "eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw",
"shard_id": 2,
"index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"cluster": "(local)",
"searches": [
{
"query": [
{
"type": "PhraseQuery",
"description": "name:\"hall of jehovahs\"",
"time_in_nanos": 875061,
"breakdown": {
"set_min_competitive_score_count": 0,
"match_count": 357,
"shallow_advance_count": 0,
"set_min_competitive_score": 0,
"next_doc": 217389,
"match": 158504,
"next_doc_count": 365,
"score_count": 357,
"compute_max_score_count": 0,
"compute_max_score": 0,
"advance": 0,
"advance_count": 0,
"count_weight_count": 0,
"score": 80376,
"build_scorer_count": 18,
"create_weight": 267914,
"shallow_advance": 0,
"count_weight": 0,
"create_weight_count": 1,
"build_scorer": 150878
}
}
],
"rewrite_time": 1900,
"collector": [
{
"name": "QueryPhaseCollector",
"reason": "search_query_phase",
"time_in_nanos": 215729,
"children": [
{
"name": "TopScoreDocCollector",
"reason": "search_top_hits",
"time_in_nanos": 187263
}
]
}
]
}
],
"aggregations": [
]
}
]
}
}
```
using shingles result is:
```json
{
"took": 1,
"timed_out": false,
"_shards": {
"total": 3,
"successful": 3,
"skipped": 0,
"failed": 0
},
"hits": {
"total": {
"value": 1033,
"relation": "eq"
},
"max_score": 11.053446,
"hits": [
{
"_index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"_id": "Ev3ihJkB4j3NtqEklEKY",
"_score": 11.053446,
"_source": {
"geonameid": 4242282,
"name": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"asciiname": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"feature_class": "S",
"feature_code": "CH",
"country_code": "US",
"admin1_code": "IL",
"admin2_code": "083",
"population": 0,
"elevation": 192,
"dem": "194",
"timezone": "America/Chicago",
"location": [
-90.31317,
39.12171
]
}
},
{
"_index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"_id": "Ff3ihJkB4j3NtqEklEKY",
"_score": 11.053446,
"_source": {
"geonameid": 4242285,
"name": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"asciiname": "Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses",
"feature_class": "S",
"feature_code": "CH",
"country_code": "US",
"admin1_code": "IL",
"admin2_code": "193",
"population": 0,
"elevation": 114,
"dem": "116",
"timezone": "America/Chicago",
"location": [
-88.15504,
38.09532
]
}
}
]
},
"profile": {
"shards": [
{
"id": "[eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw][field-name-index-phrase-geonames][0]",
"node_id": "eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw",
"shard_id": 0,
"index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"cluster": "(local)",
"searches": [
{
"query": [
{
"type": "PhraseQuery",
"description": "name._index_phrase:\"hall of of jehovahs\"",
"time_in_nanos": 448858,
"breakdown": {
"set_min_competitive_score_count": 0,
"match_count": 344,
"shallow_advance_count": 0,
"set_min_competitive_score": 0,
"next_doc": 65818,
"match": 110036,
"next_doc_count": 351,
"score_count": 344,
"compute_max_score_count": 0,
"compute_max_score": 0,
"advance": 0,
"advance_count": 0,
"count_weight_count": 0,
"score": 45188,
"build_scorer_count": 17,
"create_weight": 173293,
"shallow_advance": 0,
"count_weight": 0,
"create_weight_count": 1,
"build_scorer": 54523
}
}
],
"rewrite_time": 1979,
"collector": [
{
"name": "QueryPhaseCollector",
"reason": "search_query_phase",
"time_in_nanos": 165088,
"children": [
{
"name": "TopScoreDocCollector",
"reason": "search_top_hits",
"time_in_nanos": 138257
}
]
}
]
}
],
"aggregations": [
]
},
{
"id": "[eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw][field-name-index-phrase-geonames][1]",
"node_id": "eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw",
"shard_id": 1,
"index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"cluster": "(local)",
"searches": [
{
"query": [
{
"type": "PhraseQuery",
"description": "name._index_phrase:\"hall of of jehovahs\"",
"time_in_nanos": 462343,
"breakdown": {
"set_min_competitive_score_count": 0,
"match_count": 332,
"shallow_advance_count": 0,
"set_min_competitive_score": 0,
"next_doc": 74197,
"match": 105639,
"next_doc_count": 340,
"score_count": 332,
"compute_max_score_count": 0,
"compute_max_score": 0,
"advance": 0,
"advance_count": 0,
"count_weight_count": 0,
"score": 39970,
"build_scorer_count": 18,
"create_weight": 176054,
"shallow_advance": 0,
"count_weight": 0,
"create_weight_count": 1,
"build_scorer": 66483
}
}
],
"rewrite_time": 1860,
"collector": [
{
"name": "QueryPhaseCollector",
"reason": "search_query_phase",
"time_in_nanos": 176917,
"children": [
{
"name": "TopScoreDocCollector",
"reason": "search_top_hits",
"time_in_nanos": 147340
}
]
}
]
}
],
"aggregations": [
],
"fetch": {
"type": "fetch",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 139597,
"breakdown": {
"load_stored_fields": 85242,
"load_source": 369,
"load_stored_fields_count": 2,
"next_reader_count": 1,
"load_source_count": 2,
"next_reader": 10909
},
"debug": {
"stored_fields": [
"_id",
"_routing",
"_source"
]
},
"children": [
{
"type": "FetchFieldsPhase",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 6760,
"breakdown": {
"process_count": 2,
"process": 2650,
"next_reader": 4110,
"next_reader_count": 1
}
},
{
"type": "FetchSourcePhase",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 1440,
"breakdown": {
"process_count": 2,
"process": 1270,
"next_reader": 170,
"next_reader_count": 1
},
"debug": {
"fast_path": 2
}
},
{
"type": "StoredFieldsPhase",
"description": "",
"time_in_nanos": 672,
"breakdown": {
"process_count": 2,
"process": 361,
"next_reader": 311,
"next_reader_count": 1
}
}
]
}
},
{
"id": "[eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw][field-name-index-phrase-geonames][2]",
"node_id": "eMTQVBxNRHSgXOlKr-wicw",
"shard_id": 2,
"index": "field-name-index-phrase-geonames",
"cluster": "(local)",
"searches": [
{
"query": [
{
"type": "PhraseQuery",
"description": "name._index_phrase:\"hall of of jehovahs\"",
"time_in_nanos": 469877,
"breakdown": {
"set_min_competitive_score_count": 0,
"match_count": 357,
"shallow_advance_count": 0,
"set_min_competitive_score": 0,
"next_doc": 82265,
"match": 101038,
"next_doc_count": 365,
"score_count": 357,
"compute_max_score_count": 0,
"compute_max_score": 0,
"advance": 0,
"advance_count": 0,
"count_weight_count": 0,
"score": 49147,
"build_scorer_count": 18,
"create_weight": 174003,
"shallow_advance": 0,
"count_weight": 0,
"create_weight_count": 1,
"build_scorer": 63424
}
}
],
"rewrite_time": 790,
"collector": [
{
"name": "QueryPhaseCollector",
"reason": "search_query_phase",
"time_in_nanos": 176603,
"children": [
{
"name": "TopScoreDocCollector",
"reason": "search_top_hits",
"time_in_nanos": 142909
}
]
}
]
}
],
"aggregations": [
]
}
]
}
}
```
Comparing the two query modes, the hits.total is the same, but the single hits result sets are different. If the same query is changed to the shingles method, the hits results are different, which is considered a problem. What do you think about this problem? Thanks for your answer.
---
### Author:  [@RainTown](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/RainTown)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2025, 12:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-query-using-shingles-index-phrases-results-in-inconsistent-results-with-the-default-query-method/382625/2 "2025-10-13T12:49:02Z")
Welcome to the forum @fangqingsong and I hope someone is able to help you. Unfortunately your post is almost un-readable. Some might take the trouble to parse it, but I fear most will not.
As well as using the formatting features the forum supports, you might wish to reduce the content to the minimum that illustrates your issue.
e.g. your query and mapping
```auto
GET yourindex/_search
{
"size": 2,
"track_total_hits": true,
"profile": true,
"query": {
"match_phrase": {
"name": "hall of jehovahs"
}
}
}
```
```auto
{
"yourindex": {
"mappings": {
"name": {
"full_name": "name",
"mapping": {
"name": {
"type": "text",
"fields": {
"raw": {
"type": "text",
"analyzer": "standard"
}
},
"analyzer": "standard",
"index_phrases": true
}
}
}
}
}
}
```
has exactly same substantive info, but is **way** easier to read.