# Phrase suggester and ngrams

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-suggester-and-ngrams/51780>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [June 3, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-suggester-and-ngrams/51780 "2016-06-03T09:22:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Imran\_Azad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/imran_azad/32/4394_2.png) [@Imran\_Azad](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Imran_Azad)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-suggester-and-ngrams/51780/1 "2016-06-03T09:22:43Z")

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The phrase suggester documentation makes a few references to ngrams: [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/search-suggesters-phrase.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/search-suggesters-phrase.html)

Since it's possible to get the phrase suggester to work against a field that isn't tokenised using ngrams, my question is what disadvantages are there over using a non-ngram field over an ngram field? What's the best practice approach?

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**Author:** ![nik9000](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/nik9000/32/44947_2.png) [@nik9000](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/nik9000)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-suggester-and-ngrams/51780/2 "2016-06-03T10:58:48Z")

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Use ngrams with 2 and 3 gram size. If you don't have ngrams then the phrase  
suggester works just like the term suggester. Experiment! Playing with that  
suggester is how I got started working with es.

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**Author:** ![Imran\_Azad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/imran_azad/32/4394_2.png) [@Imran\_Azad](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Imran_Azad)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-suggester-and-ngrams/51780/3 "2016-06-03T14:45:04Z")

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Thanks Nik. 🙂

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/phrase-suggester-and-ngrams/51780/4 "2017-07-05T22:46:24Z")

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