# Plan for river **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [October 26, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/plan-for-river/20438 "2014-10-26T23:49:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mungeol\_Heo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Mungeol\_Heo](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mungeol_Heo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/plan-for-river/20438/1 "2014-10-26T23:49:55Z")
Hi, My question is that will es remove all river related plugin in the future? If it will, I'd like to know that is there substitution for JDBC? Thanks. Best regards, - Mungeol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![vineeth\_mohan\_2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/vineeth_mohan_2/32/747_2.png) [@vineeth\_mohan\_2](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/vineeth_mohan_2)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 3:40am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/plan-for-river/20438/2 "2014-10-27T03:40:06Z")
Hello Mungeol , As far as i know , the plan is to depreciate rivers and move them to logstash. Thanks Vineeth On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Mungeol Heo [mungeol.heo@gmail.com](mailto:mungeol.heo@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi, > > My question is that will es remove all river related plugin in the future? > If it will, I'd like to know that is there substitution for JDBC? > Thanks. > > Best regards, > > - Mungeol > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAGdPd5nRAy3o1LWi9n9%3DWEMEDb%3DBE60v\_D8LiZmy%2BM5g6%2BPrdA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAGdPd5nRAy3o1LWi9n9%3DWEMEDb%3DBE60v_D8LiZmy%2BM5g6%2BPrdA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Mungeol\_Heo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Mungeol\_Heo](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mungeol_Heo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 6:44am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/plan-for-river/20438/3 "2014-10-27T06:44:23Z")
I see. Thanks for your quick reply. Have a nice day. Thanks, - Mungeol On Monday, October 27, 2014 12:40:12 PM UTC+9, vineeth mohan wrote: > Hello Mungeol , > > As far as i know , the plan is to depreciate rivers and move them to > logstash. > > Thanks > Vineeth > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Mungeol Heo \<[munge...@gmail.com](mailto:munge...@gmail.com) > \\> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > My question is that will es remove all river related plugin in the future? > > If it will, I'd like to know that is there substitution for JDBC? > > Thanks. > > > > Best regards, > > > > - Mungeol > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearc...@googlegroups.com) \. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com) > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/db28801f-5fa1-49c9-abcf-448292c62300%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/db28801f-5fa1-49c9-abcf-448292c62300%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![jprante](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jprante/32/44941_2.png) [@jprante](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jprante)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 8:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/plan-for-river/20438/4 "2014-10-27T08:11:41Z")
Yes, there is already a substitution, the JDBC feeder in the JDBC river repo. Future versions of JDBC river will no longer rely on the river API. Jörg On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Mungeol Heo [mungeol.heo@gmail.com](mailto:mungeol.heo@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi, > > My question is that will es remove all river related plugin in the future? > If it will, I'd like to know that is there substitution for JDBC? > Thanks. > > Best regards, > > - Mungeol > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoFk3x%2BTzscHBohYbiHUb-By%2BVv9w5OGx7vj8hj0oE7MRQ%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoFk3x%2BTzscHBohYbiHUb-By%2BVv9w5OGx7vj8hj0oE7MRQ%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/plan-for-river/20438/5 "2014-10-27T17:12:30Z")
There is nothing magical about rivers. With some Java code changes, most rivers can be made to run as standalone Java processes. The only thing the rivers do is (weakly) guarantee that only one river instance is run per cluster. Cheers, Ivan On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:11 AM, [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) \< [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com)\> wrote: > Yes, there is already a substitution, the JDBC feeder in the JDBC river > repo. > > Future versions of JDBC river will no longer rely on the river API. > > Jörg > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Mungeol Heo [mungeol.heo@gmail.com](mailto:mungeol.heo@gmail.com) > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > My question is that will es remove all river related plugin in the future? > > If it will, I'd like to know that is there substitution for JDBC? > > Thanks. > > > > Best regards, > > > > - Mungeol > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "elasticsearch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com) > > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/cc6d541f-1609-4218-932b-064a27e9692a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoFk3x%2BTzscHBohYbiHUb-By%2BVv9w5OGx7vj8hj0oE7MRQ%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoFk3x%2BTzscHBohYbiHUb-By%2BVv9w5OGx7vj8hj0oE7MRQ%40mail.gmail.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoFk3x%2BTzscHBohYbiHUb-By%2BVv9w5OGx7vj8hj0oE7MRQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAKdsXoFk3x%2BTzscHBohYbiHUb-By%2BVv9w5OGx7vj8hj0oE7MRQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQBOYCE7rMYC6j46owedA0TVPid3tV5RXAVSTyJfPmXiow%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CALY%3DcQBOYCE7rMYC6j46owedA0TVPid3tV5RXAVSTyJfPmXiow%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
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