# Please help, detailed steps to upgrade from Kibana 3 to 4.1.1

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/please-help-detailed-steps-to-upgrade-from-kibana-3-to-4-1-1/25690>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [July 16, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/please-help-detailed-steps-to-upgrade-from-kibana-3-to-4-1-1/25690 "2015-07-16T05:42:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![rthorntn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/rthorntn/32/3737_2.png) [@rthorntn](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/rthorntn)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/please-help-detailed-steps-to-upgrade-from-kibana-3-to-4-1-1/25690/1 "2015-07-16T05:42:57Z")

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Hi,

I can't find any upgrade documents anywhere.

So I have upgraded Logstash and ES using the deb and apt-get respectively.

I have downloaded and extracted the kibana 4.1.1 tar.gz and now I am stuck.

It looks like 4.x has it's own web server now, so I don't want to be using nginx anymore, I currently access kibana on the internet through https?

I just have a basic, essentially default dashboard.

Please help.

Cheers  
Richard

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**Author:** ![magnusbaeck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/magnusbaeck/32/44943_2.png) [@magnusbaeck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/magnusbaeck)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 7:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/please-help-detailed-steps-to-upgrade-from-kibana-3-to-4-1-1/25690/2 "2015-07-16T07:52:13Z")

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You can still use nginx as a reverse proxy fronting Kibana, but with Kibana 4 you don't _need_ a separate web server to serve static files as is required in Kibana 3.

Since K4 is a completely different beast from K3 I don't think it's very relevant to talk about an upgrade. Think of it as a new piece of software.

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/please-help-detailed-steps-to-upgrade-from-kibana-3-to-4-1-1/25690/3 "2015-07-18T04:12:31Z")

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Plus dashboards aren't compatible, you need to rebuild them.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/please-help-detailed-steps-to-upgrade-from-kibana-3-to-4-1-1/25690/4 "2017-07-06T14:16:17Z")

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