# Replica assignement on the same host

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [August 29, 2014, 10:45am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526 "2014-08-29T10:45:36Z")
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#### Post date: [August 29, 2014, 10:45am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526/1 "2014-08-29T10:45:36Z")

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Hi,

I have an ES cluster with 12 data nodes spread on 6 servers (so 2 nodes per  
server) and I saw that replicas of a shard can be allocated on the same  
server(on each nodes hosted by a server)

To avoid this I haveset those parameters to the cluster:  
node.host: \<server\_name\>  
cluster.routing.allocation.awareness.attributes: zone, host

But I'm wondering if there are not a specific parameter for this instead of  
using clustering awareness allocation?

Nicolas

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#### Post date: [August 29, 2014, 10:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526/2 "2014-08-29T10:52:26Z")

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That's the best method as per

> **[Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale](https://www.elastic.co)**
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Regards,  
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer  
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On 29 August 2014 20:45, 'Nicolas Fraison' via elasticsearch \<  
[elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)\> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have an ES cluster with 12 data nodes spread on 6 servers (so 2 nodes  
> per server) and I saw that replicas of a shard can be allocated on the same  
> server(on each nodes hosted by a server)
> 
> To avoid this I haveset those parameters to the cluster:  
> node.host: \<server\_name\>  
> cluster.routing.allocation.awareness.attributes: zone, host
> 
> But I'm wondering if there are not a specific parameter for this instead  
> of using clustering awareness allocation?
> 
> Nicolas
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### Author: ![Ivan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df788c/32.png) [@Ivan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Ivan)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526/3 "2014-08-29T19:16:46Z")

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The replica of a shard should never be on the same node as the primary.  
Where did you notice this anomaly? What version are you using?

--  
Ivan

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
wrote:

> That's the best method as per  
> [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-cluster.html#allocation-awareness)
> 
> Regards,  
> Mark Walkom
> 
> Infrastructure Engineer  
> Campaign Monitor  
> email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> 
> On 29 August 2014 20:45, 'Nicolas Fraison' via elasticsearch \<  
> [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)\> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have an ES cluster with 12 data nodes spread on 6 servers (so 2 nodes  
> > per server) and I saw that replicas of a shard can be allocated on the same  
> > server(on each nodes hosted by a server)
> > 
> > To avoid this I haveset those parameters to the cluster:  
> > node.host: \<server\_name\>  
> > cluster.routing.allocation.awareness.attributes: zone, host
> > 
> > But I'm wondering if there are not a specific parameter for this instead  
> > of using clustering awareness allocation?
> > 
> > Nicolas
> > 
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#### Post date: [August 30, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526/4 "2014-08-30T00:06:54Z")

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He's running multiple ES instances/nodes per physical, ie a VM or container  
or just a second process, so I don't think it's primary and secondary on  
the same ES instance.

Regards,  
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer  
Campaign Monitor  
email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)

On 30 August 2014 05:16, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote:

> The replica of a shard should never be on the same node as the primary.  
> Where did you notice this anomaly? What version are you using?
> 
> --  
> Ivan
> 
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> wrote:
> 
> > That's the best method as per  
> > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-cluster.html#allocation-awareness)
> > 
> > Regards,  
> > Mark Walkom
> > 
> > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > Campaign Monitor  
> > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > 
> > On 29 August 2014 20:45, 'Nicolas Fraison' via elasticsearch \<  
> > [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)\> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have an ES cluster with 12 data nodes spread on 6 servers (so 2 nodes  
> > > per server) and I saw that replicas of a shard can be allocated on the same  
> > > server(on each nodes hosted by a server)
> > > 
> > > To avoid this I haveset those parameters to the cluster:  
> > > node.host: \<server\_name\>  
> > > cluster.routing.allocation.awareness.attributes: zone, host
> > > 
> > > But I'm wondering if there are not a specific parameter for this instead  
> > > of using clustering awareness allocation?
> > > 
> > > Nicolas
> > > 
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#### Post date: [August 30, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526/5 "2014-08-30T00:14:41Z")

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It's Friday. Can't read. Nevermind. 🙂

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
wrote:

> He's running multiple ES instances/nodes per physical, ie a VM or  
> container or just a second process, so I don't think it's primary and  
> secondary on the same ES instance.
> 
> Regards,  
> Mark Walkom
> 
> Infrastructure Engineer  
> Campaign Monitor  
> email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> 
> On 30 August 2014 05:16, Ivan Brusic [ivan@brusic.com](mailto:ivan@brusic.com) wrote:
> 
> > The replica of a shard should never be on the same node as the primary.  
> > Where did you notice this anomaly? What version are you using?
> > 
> > --  
> > Ivan
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Mark Walkom [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > That's the best method as per  
> > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-cluster.html#allocation-awareness)
> > > 
> > > Regards,  
> > > Mark Walkom
> > > 
> > > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > > Campaign Monitor  
> > > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > > 
> > > On 29 August 2014 20:45, 'Nicolas Fraison' via elasticsearch \<  
> > > [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)\> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I have an ES cluster with 12 data nodes spread on 6 servers (so 2 nodes  
> > > > per server) and I saw that replicas of a shard can be allocated on the same  
> > > > server(on each nodes hosted by a server)
> > > > 
> > > > To avoid this I haveset those parameters to the cluster:  
> > > > node.host: \<server\_name\>  
> > > > cluster.routing.allocation.awareness.attributes: zone, host
> > > > 
> > > > But I'm wondering if there are not a specific parameter for this  
> > > > instead of using clustering awareness allocation?
> > > > 
> > > > Nicolas
> > > > 
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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/replica-assignement-on-the-same-host/19526/6 "2017-07-06T01:05:23Z")

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