# Reticulating Splines

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [March 14, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376 "2019-03-14T15:47:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Meredith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Meredith](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Meredith)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376/1 "2019-03-14T15:47:24Z")

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I am not able to create an index pattern in my Kibana because it keeps saying it is Checking for Elasticsearch data/ Reticulating splines... I do not know if it is an issue of permissions. I tried to change my access policy, but everything I have tried is not working. Do you have a suggestion for a change to fix this?

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**Author:** ![jbudz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jbudz/32/45922_2.png) [@jbudz](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jbudz)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376/2 "2019-03-14T18:07:10Z")

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Hey, a few questions :). Can you share your Kibana version? Is x-pack installed? Does the request appear to finish, or is it loading continuously?

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**Author:** ![Meredith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Meredith](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Meredith)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376/3 "2019-03-14T20:20:25Z")

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Hi! I do not have x-pack installed, I'm running 6.4.2 and it appears to load continuously.

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**Author:** ![Meredith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Meredith](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Meredith)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376/4 "2019-03-15T18:14:25Z")

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I was able to relax permissions, but now cannot create an index pattern at all. There are indicies I can see in my elastic search, but when I go to "Index Pattern", it says "Couldn't find any Elasticsearch data".

 ![44%20PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/f/0/f01d4120553b994689f4c7f9825600eb06cf8881.png)

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**Author:** ![jbudz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jbudz/32/45922_2.png) [@jbudz](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jbudz)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376/5 "2019-03-19T14:55:13Z")

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Can you clarify relax permissions (search guard?)? Kibana will operate as if the index patterns don't exist if it doesn't have permissions, so we most likely need to add more permissions. Read access on the indices you're looking for may be a good starting point.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/reticulating-splines/172376/6 "2019-04-16T14:55:16Z")

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