# Same index pattern in multiple namespaces
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/same-index-pattern-in-multiple-namespaces/316085
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [October 7, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/same-index-pattern-in-multiple-namespaces/316085 "2022-10-07T13:46:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@umesh2020](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/umesh2020)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/same-index-pattern-in-multiple-namespaces/316085/1 "2022-10-07T13:46:56Z")
Hi
I am using Kibana/Elasticsearch version 7.16.3. I have trouble creating the same index pattern within multiple namespaces. I am using bulk create API to create multiple index patterns and for one of the patterns which is present in another namespace, I am getting status code 409 with error indicating there is Conflict and the index pattern is not over writable.
```auto
json:
saved_objects:
- attributes:
timeFieldName: '@timestamp'
title: fi5-dev-*
coreMigrationVersion: 8.4.2
id: fi5-dev-pattern
migrationVersion:
index-pattern: 8.0.0
namespaces:
- fi5-dev-space
references: []
type: index-pattern
updated_at: '2022-10-06T19:41:59.897Z'
version: WzU0MzAxLDRd
- error:
error: Conflict
message: Saved object [index-pattern/shared-dev-pattern] conflict
metadata:
isNotOverwritable: true
statusCode: 409
id: shared-dev-pattern
type: index-pattern
```
I am calling [https://localhost:5601/s/fi5-dev-space/api/saved\_objects/\_bulk\_create](https://localhost:5601/s/fi5-dev-space/api/saved_objects/_bulk_create) to create the index pattern with following attributes
```auto
[
{
"type": "index-pattern",
"id": "fi5-dev-index-pattern",
"attributes": {
"title": "fi5-dev-*",
"timeFieldName": "@timestamp",
"initialNamespaces": "fi5-dev-space"
}
},
{
"type": "index-pattern",
"id": "shared-index-pattern",
"attributes": {
"title": "shared-dev-*",
"timeFieldName": "@timestamp",
"initialNamespaces": "fi5-dev-space"
}
}
]
```
The shared dev index pattern is present in another namespace fi1-dev.
```auto
{
"saved_objects": [
{
"id": "shared-dev-pattern",
"type": "index-pattern",
"namespaces": [
"fi1-dev-space"
],
"updated_at": "2022-10-06T21:57:06.387Z",
"version": "WzU0OTY5LDRd",
"attributes": {
"title": "shared-dev-*",
"timeFieldName": "@timestamp",
"initialNamespaces": "fi1-dev-space"
},
"references": [],
"migrationVersion": {
"index-pattern": "8.0.0"
},
"coreMigrationVersion": "8.4.2"
}
]
}
```
Thanks for your time and Any pointers to resolve this is appreciated.
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### Author:  [@flash1293](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/flash1293)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2022, 7:07am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/same-index-pattern-in-multiple-namespaces/316085/2 "2022-10-10T07:07:26Z")
Ids of `index-pattern` saved objects need to be unique even across spaces. Make sure to use a different id per space.
Alternatively you can create a single `index-pattern` and list all the spaces you want it to be available in the `initialNamespaces` property: [Create saved objects API | Kibana Guide [master] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/master/saved-objects-api-create.html)
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2022, 7:08am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/same-index-pattern-in-multiple-namespaces/316085/3 "2022-11-07T07:08:26Z")
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