# Scalability

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [September 18, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939 "2018-09-18T08:57:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Arun\_Murugappan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/arun_murugappan/32/101630_2.png) [@Arun\_Murugappan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Arun_Murugappan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/1 "2018-09-18T08:57:43Z")

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W

 ![IANT2121%5B1%5D](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/a/d/ad10b7bf345d955b0985c783d234cdf5b6d40954.jpeg) hy is the graph as shown below in the attachment. Explain

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**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/2 "2018-09-18T09:04:55Z")

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Which graph?

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**Author:** ![Arun\_Murugappan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/arun_murugappan/32/101630_2.png) [@Arun\_Murugappan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Arun_Murugappan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/3 "2018-09-18T11:52:49Z")

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the graph in the attachment. Cost vs users

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**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/4 "2018-09-18T12:04:58Z")

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I think you need to elaborate a bit more on your question as it is not clear what you are asking. It also seems quite general and not directly Elasticsearch related. Maybe [this link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalability) is useful?

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**Author:** ![Arun\_Murugappan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/arun_murugappan/32/101630_2.png) [@Arun\_Murugappan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Arun_Murugappan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/5 "2018-09-18T12:25:04Z")

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It is related to the link that you have attached. Thanks. It is related to ES. As ES scales well as compared to rdbms. My question there in lies, in horizontal scaling--why does the system cost rise at a constant rate but in vertical scaling the system cost rise steeply. Likeise application performance is maintained in horizontal scaling but dips a little in vertical scaling. Why so?

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**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 12:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/6 "2018-09-18T12:29:20Z")

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Typically scaling out by buying cheap commodity hardware is a cheaper way to add computing resources rather than buying larger and larger servers, which tend to get more expensive. There is also often a limit to the size of server you can get, so when your needs exceed what one maxed out server can handle you might find yourself in a tricky situation. Why the graph dips at the end I do not know as I did not create the graph.

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**Author:** ![Arun\_Murugappan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/arun_murugappan/32/101630_2.png) [@Arun\_Murugappan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Arun_Murugappan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/7 "2018-09-18T12:33:28Z")

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Thanks Christian. With respect to cost, probably yes. If there is limit to the size of servers (vscal), isnt there a limit to the number of servers as well(hscal)?

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**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/8 "2018-09-18T12:44:06Z")

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There may naturally be limits to horizontal scalability as well, but it often depends on what type of system you are running.

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**Author:** ![Arun\_Murugappan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/arun_murugappan/32/101630_2.png) [@Arun\_Murugappan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Arun_Murugappan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/9 "2018-09-18T15:04:55Z")

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okay. yes. But there is always preference to horizontal scaling than vertical scaling. Am I right?

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**Author:** ![Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/christian_dahlqvist/32/4617_2.png) [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/10 "2018-09-18T15:14:39Z")

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I do not think there is any easy answer to that as it depends on the system you are deploying.

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**Author:** ![Arun\_Murugappan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/arun_murugappan/32/101630_2.png) [@Arun\_Murugappan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Arun_Murugappan)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/11 "2018-09-19T05:15:13Z")

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got that

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/scalability/148939/12 "2018-10-17T05:15:20Z")

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