# Security connection for Elastic and Logstash

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-connection-for-elastic-and-logstash/191009>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [July 17, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-connection-for-elastic-and-logstash/191009 "2019-07-17T13:32:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![edster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/da6949/32.png) [@edster](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/edster)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-connection-for-elastic-and-logstash/191009/1 "2019-07-17T13:32:16Z")

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Is there any kind of security for the Elastic application, not using X-Pack, so that not anyone can make a REST call or have any sort of connection to Elastic without needing using a proper id or login?

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**Author:** ![DavidTurner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/davidturner/32/22453_2.png) [@DavidTurner](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DavidTurner)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-connection-for-elastic-and-logstash/191009/2 "2019-07-17T13:59:54Z")

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There's various alternatives to X-pack Security (e.g. you can set up your own reverse-proxy in front of things) but given that [X-pack Security is now free](https://www.elastic.co/blog/security-for-elasticsearch-is-now-free) it's not clear why you're looking for an alternative. Can you clarify?

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**Author:** ![edster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/da6949/32.png) [@edster](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/edster)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-connection-for-elastic-and-logstash/191009/3 "2019-07-25T17:27:41Z")

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Understood. I wasn't aware x-pack security was free. But, also I am using a version prior to 6.8.0.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-connection-for-elastic-and-logstash/191009/4 "2019-08-22T17:27:43Z")

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