# Security in elasticsearch without Xpack

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-in-elasticsearch-without-xpack/98412>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [August 25, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-in-elasticsearch-without-xpack/98412 "2017-08-25T19:37:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![njkl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@njkl](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/njkl)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-in-elasticsearch-without-xpack/98412/1 "2017-08-25T19:37:44Z")

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Hi,

This is only a clarification request. Is it possible to manage security without Xpack ? (create role, assign role, create users, assign user, assign role to specific functions, etc ?)

Also, is the xpack the only plugin out there to handle security ? or there is others (free or not) ?

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**Author:** ![lukas\_vlcek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@lukas\_vlcek](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lukas_vlcek)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-in-elasticsearch-without-xpack/98412/2 "2017-08-28T14:50:58Z")

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Have you seen [https://github.com/floragunncom/search-guard/](https://github.com/floragunncom/search-guard/) ?

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**Author:** ![jasontedor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jasontedor/32/66992_2.png) [@jasontedor](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jasontedor)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-in-elasticsearch-without-xpack/98412/3 "2017-08-28T17:06:31Z")

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> [@njkl](#):
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> This is only a clarification request. Is it possible to manage security without Xpack ? (create role, assign role, create users, assign user, assign role to specific functions, etc ?)

It's not possible without a plugin that provides this functionality (Elasticsearch does not support it natively) or heavy lifting on your end to put a proxy in front of Elasticsearch that you build these features through. X-Pack is one plugin that does provide these things.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/security-in-elasticsearch-without-xpack/98412/4 "2017-09-25T17:06:36Z")

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