# Should there be several Kibana apm-\* index patterns in Kibana?
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/should-there-be-several-kibana-apm-index-patterns-in-kibana/236366
**Category:** APM
**Tags:** ui
**Created:** [June 9, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/should-there-be-several-kibana-apm-index-patterns-in-kibana/236366 "2020-06-09T14:47:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@A\_B](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/A_B)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/should-there-be-several-kibana-apm-index-patterns-in-kibana/236366/1 "2020-06-09T14:47:30Z")
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**Kibana version** : 7.7.0
**Elasticsearch version** : 7.7.0
**APM Server version** : 7.6.2
**APM Agent language and version** : many different, probably not related
**Browser version** : many different, probably not related
**Original install method (e.g. download page, yum, deb, from source, etc.) and version**: Debian package. Puppet managed
**Fresh install or upgraded from other version?**
All components have probably been upgraded several times
**Is there anything special in your setup?** For example, are you using the Logstash or Kafka outputs? Are you using a load balancer in front of the APM Servers? Have you changed index pattern, generated custom templates, changed agent configuration etc.
Nothing special
**Description of the problem including expected versus actual behavior. Please include screenshots (if relevant)**:
I see several index patterns named `apm-*` in Kibana. These have, as far as I know, been created by APM Server.
The Kibana dashboards seem to rely on a index pattern with `id:apm-*`
There is another index pattern with `id:apm_static_index_pattern_id` which seems to be used by the APM app
**Steps to reproduce** :
1. Remove all `apm-*` index patterns from _Management \> Index Patterns_
2. Open one of the APM dashboards in _Dashboards_. You should see `Could not locate that index-pattern (id: apm-*), click here to re-create it`. To re-create it you have to manually set the `id` to `apm-*` otherwise the dashboards wont work.
3. Open APM app (creates `id:apm_static_index_pattern_id`)
After filling this out it seems like more of a Kibana issue... Still, curious to know if this is meant to be like this. Maybe I need to update the APM dashboards found in _Dashboards_
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### Author:  [@caue.marcondes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/caue.marcondes)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/should-there-be-several-kibana-apm-index-patterns-in-kibana/236366/2 "2020-06-09T17:14:13Z")
Hi @A_B, thanks for your message.
It was already fixed in this [PR](https://github.com/elastic/kibana/pull/64883) which is going to be released on `v7.8.0`
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/should-there-be-several-kibana-apm-index-patterns-in-kibana/236366/3 "2020-06-30T13:14:16Z")
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