# Sorting text fields case insensitive
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/sorting-text-fields-case-insensitive/79922
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [March 24, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/sorting-text-fields-case-insensitive/79922 "2017-03-24T16:23:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@wgerlach](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/wgerlach)
#### Post date: [March 24, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/sorting-text-fields-case-insensitive/79922/1 "2017-03-24T16:23:11Z")
Hi,
using ES 5.2.2 I am trying to create a schema that allows me to sort by text fields:
> "project\_name" : {
> "type": "text",
> "fields": {
> "keyword": {
> "type": "keyword",
> "normalizer" : "lowerasciinormalizer"
> }
> }
> },
> with
> "normalizer": {
> "lowerasciinormalizer": {
> "type": "custom",
> "filter": ["lowercase", "asciifolding"]
> }
> },
a) I notice that when I do not specify the normalizer, I can sort (case sensitive). When I specify the normalizer I can not sort at all! So, what can I do to get the normalizer to work and be able to sort case insensitive?
b) I noticed that when I call the field "raw" instead of "keyword", sorting also does not work. I am surprised as I would have thought that I can name it whatever I want, as long as I specify "type": "keyword" !?
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [March 31, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/sorting-text-fields-case-insensitive/79922/2 "2017-03-31T06:09:40Z")
Can you send a full script to reproduce your issue?
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2017, 6:09am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/sorting-text-fields-case-insensitive/79922/3 "2017-04-28T06:09:58Z")
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