# Start log stash as windows service without nssm **URL:** \ **Category:** Logstash\ **Created:** [October 17, 2015, 10:17am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/start-log-stash-as-windows-service-without-nssm/32430 "2015-10-17T10:17:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DomsRoberts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@DomsRoberts](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DomsRoberts)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 10:17am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/start-log-stash-as-windows-service-without-nssm/32430/1 "2015-10-17T10:17:34Z")
I want to install logstash as a windows service on my windows server. But, for security reasons I'm not able to download and use Nssm. Are the instructions anywhere to do that? All the info I can find involves using NSSM ---
**Author:** ![schmorgs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/schmorgs/32/39476_2.png) [@schmorgs](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/schmorgs)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/start-log-stash-as-windows-service-without-nssm/32430/2 "2015-12-17T15:15:47Z")
I had it working with the Apache Commons Daemon "ProcRun" but if you're facing problems with nssm, I suspect you'll face the same one downloading this. Link is here : [https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/procrun.html](https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/procrun.html) I say "had" it working as it works fine on my 64bit workstation, but when I put it on a server (also 64bit), refuses to start!! But you might be lucky! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/start-log-stash-as-windows-service-without-nssm/32430/3 "2017-07-06T05:18:01Z")