# Stop words and re indexing

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/stop-words-and-re-indexing/23239>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [April 14, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/stop-words-and-re-indexing/23239 "2015-04-14T20:19:42Z")\
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Hi ,  
am new to elastic stop words and I want to understand more

can we configure the stop words at time of index creation and later update  
the stop words with \_settings API .

Does it requires to re index documents to reflect the new list of stop  
words ?

I want to know if there is a way to configure stop words only for search  
API and get stop words reflect on search results

[http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/using-stopwords.html](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/using-stopwords.html)  
[http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-update-settings.html](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-update-settings.html)

Regards,  
Nagaraju

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Hello ,

I need to double check if we can change the analyzer defenition.  
But then even if you change it , you need to re index the whole index to  
make it working.  
Else your index would be looking bad with a set of documents analyzed  
differently with different set of stop words and another set analyzed  
differently , with different set of stop words.

So my advice would be to reindex the whole index , you you badly need this.

Thanks  
Vineeth Mohan,  
Elasticsearch consultant,  
[qbox.io](http://qbox.io) ( Elasticsearch service provider [http://qbox.io/](http://qbox.io/))

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:49 AM, bvnrwork [budda08nitt@gmail.com](mailto:budda08nitt@gmail.com) wrote:

> Hi ,  
> am new to elastic stop words and I want to understand more
> 
> can we configure the stop words at time of index creation and later update  
> the stop words with \_settings API .
> 
> Does it requires to re index documents to reflect the new list of stop  
> words ?
> 
> I want to know if there is a way to configure stop words only for search  
> API and get stop words reflect on search results
> 
> [Using Stopwords | Elasticsearch: The Definitive Guide [2.x] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/using-stopwords.html)
> 
> [Update index settings API | Elasticsearch Guide [8.11] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-update-settings.html)
> 
> Regards,  
> Nagaraju
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**Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/stop-words-and-re-indexing/23239/3 "2015-04-15T03:12:47Z")

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Hey Vineeth,

Thank you

Is there a way I can specify the stop words only during searches .

For example the word "AND" I want to index but I want my searches consider  
this

Regards  
Nagaraju  
908 517 6981

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:59 PM, vineeth mohan [vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com](mailto:vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com)  
wrote:

> Hello ,
> 
> I need to double check if we can change the analyzer defenition.  
> But then even if you change it , you need to re index the whole index to  
> make it working.  
> Else your index would be looking bad with a set of documents analyzed  
> differently with different set of stop words and another set analyzed  
> differently , with different set of stop words.
> 
> So my advice would be to reindex the whole index , you you badly need this.
> 
> Thanks  
> Vineeth Mohan,  
> Elasticsearch consultant,  
> [qbox.io](http://qbox.io) ( Elasticsearch service provider [http://qbox.io/](http://qbox.io/))
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:49 AM, bvnrwork [budda08nitt@gmail.com](mailto:budda08nitt@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > Hi ,  
> > am new to elastic stop words and I want to understand more
> > 
> > can we configure the stop words at time of index creation and later  
> > update the stop words with \_settings API .
> > 
> > Does it requires to re index documents to reflect the new list of stop  
> > words ?
> > 
> > I want to know if there is a way to configure stop words only for search  
> > API and get stop words reflect on search results
> > 
> > [Using Stopwords | Elasticsearch: The Definitive Guide [2.x] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/using-stopwords.html)
> > 
> > [Update index settings API | Elasticsearch Guide [8.11] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-update-settings.html)
> > 
> > Regards,  
> > Nagaraju
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Hello ,

You can specify the analyzer in match query  
[http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/1.3/query-dsl-match-query.html](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/1.3/query-dsl-match-query.html)  
.  
Creating the analyzer you want and mentioning the stopwords in it and  
referring it from the match query might actually work.

Thanks  
Vineeth Mohan,  
Elasticsearch consultant,  
[qbox.io](http://qbox.io) ( Elasticsearch service provider [http://qbox.io/](http://qbox.io/))

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:42 AM, buddarapu nagaraju [budda08nitt@gmail.com](mailto:budda08nitt@gmail.com)  
wrote:

> Hey Vineeth,
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Is there a way I can specify the stop words only during searches .
> 
> For example the word "AND" I want to index but I want my searches consider  
> this
> 
> Regards  
> Nagaraju  
> 908 517 6981
> 
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:59 PM, vineeth mohan \<[vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com](mailto:vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com)
> 
> > wrote:
> 
> > Hello ,
> > 
> > I need to double check if we can change the analyzer defenition.  
> > But then even if you change it , you need to re index the whole index to  
> > make it working.  
> > Else your index would be looking bad with a set of documents analyzed  
> > differently with different set of stop words and another set analyzed  
> > differently , with different set of stop words.
> > 
> > So my advice would be to reindex the whole index , you you badly need  
> > this.
> > 
> > Thanks  
> > Vineeth Mohan,  
> > Elasticsearch consultant,  
> > [qbox.io](http://qbox.io) ( Elasticsearch service provider [http://qbox.io/](http://qbox.io/))
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:49 AM, bvnrwork [budda08nitt@gmail.com](mailto:budda08nitt@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi ,  
> > > am new to elastic stop words and I want to understand more
> > > 
> > > can we configure the stop words at time of index creation and later  
> > > update the stop words with \_settings API .
> > > 
> > > Does it requires to re index documents to reflect the new list of stop  
> > > words ?
> > > 
> > > I want to know if there is a way to configure stop words only for search  
> > > API and get stop words reflect on search results
> > > 
> > > [Using Stopwords | Elasticsearch: The Definitive Guide [2.x] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/using-stopwords.html)
> > > 
> > > [Update index settings API | Elasticsearch Guide [8.11] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-update-settings.html)
> > > 
> > > Regards,  
> > > Nagaraju
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Thank you Vineeth

I tired creating custom analyzer and specifying the analyzer part of search  
and I see it works except

for phrase search

I don't see stop words getting reflected on search

For example :

the search query "xerox america" and xerox is stop word but I am getting  
documents with xerox

Is it standard behavior ?

Regarding omitting stop words while indexing

Also I want to try indexing to omit the stop so defined index setting as  
below but I still see stop words getting indexed

Do you know any reason why

"settings": {  
"index": {  
"number\_of\_shards": 1,  
"number\_of\_replicas": 0,  
"analysis": {  
"analyzer": {  
"standard": {  
"type": "standard"  
},  
"english": {  
"type": "english"  
},  
"cjk": {  
"type": "cjk"  
},  
"french": {  
"type": "french"  
},  
"german": {  
"type": "german"  
},  
"italian": {  
"type": "italian"  
},  
"spanish": {  
"type": "spanish"  
},  
"russian": {  
"type": "russian"  
},  
"arabic": {  
"type": "arabic"  
},  
"stopwordanalyzer": {  
"stopwords": [  
"AND",  
"AN",  
"THE",  
""  
],  
"type": "stop"  
}  
}  
}  
}  
},  
"aliases": {  
"201": {}

Regards  
Nagaraju  
908 517 6981

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:29 PM, vineeth mohan [vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com](mailto:vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com)  
wrote:

> Hello ,
> 
> You can specify the analyzer in match query  
> [http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/1.3/query-dsl-match-query.html](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/1.3/query-dsl-match-query.html)  
> .  
> Creating the analyzer you want and mentioning the stopwords in it and  
> referring it from the match query might actually work.
> 
> Thanks  
> Vineeth Mohan,  
> Elasticsearch consultant,  
> [qbox.io](http://qbox.io) ( Elasticsearch service provider [http://qbox.io/](http://qbox.io/))
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:42 AM, buddarapu nagaraju \<[budda08nitt@gmail.com](mailto:budda08nitt@gmail.com)
> 
> > wrote:
> 
> > Hey Vineeth,
> > 
> > Thank you
> > 
> > Is there a way I can specify the stop words only during searches .
> > 
> > For example the word "AND" I want to index but I want my searches  
> > consider this
> > 
> > Regards  
> > Nagaraju  
> > 908 517 6981
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:59 PM, vineeth mohan \<  
> > [vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com](mailto:vm.vineethmohan@gmail.com)\> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello ,
> > > 
> > > I need to double check if we can change the analyzer defenition.  
> > > But then even if you change it , you need to re index the whole index to  
> > > make it working.  
> > > Else your index would be looking bad with a set of documents analyzed  
> > > differently with different set of stop words and another set analyzed  
> > > differently , with different set of stop words.
> > > 
> > > So my advice would be to reindex the whole index , you you badly need  
> > > this.
> > > 
> > > Thanks  
> > > Vineeth Mohan,  
> > > Elasticsearch consultant,  
> > > [qbox.io](http://qbox.io) ( Elasticsearch service provider [http://qbox.io/](http://qbox.io/))
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:49 AM, bvnrwork [budda08nitt@gmail.com](mailto:budda08nitt@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi ,  
> > > > am new to elastic stop words and I want to understand more
> > > > 
> > > > can we configure the stop words at time of index creation and later  
> > > > update the stop words with \_settings API .
> > > > 
> > > > Does it requires to re index documents to reflect the new list of  
> > > > stop words ?
> > > > 
> > > > I want to know if there is a way to configure stop words only for  
> > > > search API and get stop words reflect on search results
> > > > 
> > > > [Using Stopwords | Elasticsearch: The Definitive Guide [2.x] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/using-stopwords.html)
> > > > 
> > > > [Update index settings API | Elasticsearch Guide [8.11] | Elastic](http://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-update-settings.html)
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,  
> > > > Nagaraju
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
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