# Synonyms file in a cluster **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [March 24, 2013, 12:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279 "2013-03-24T12:11:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chris\_Greening](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chris_greening/32/2285_2.png) [@Chris\_Greening](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Chris_Greening)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2013, 12:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279/1 "2013-03-24T12:11:02Z")
Hi All, I just wanted to check my understanding of how synonyms work with indexes in a cluster. Am I right in thinking that each cluster will need the same synonyms file? Will it matter if when a cluster is being updated the synonyms files are out of sync (e.g. if you are updating each machine in turn, a new machine will be added to the cluster with a new synonyms file that is not the same as the other machines). Or is the synonyms file stored with the index and not referenced again? Thanks Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![simonw\_2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/simonw_2/32/1130_2.png) [@simonw\_2](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/simonw_2)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279/2 "2013-03-24T18:45:10Z")
your understanding is correct I'd say! simon On Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:11:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > Hi All, > > I just wanted to check my understanding of how synonyms work with indexes > in a cluster. > > Am I right in thinking that each cluster will need the same synonyms file? > > Will it matter if when a cluster is being updated the synonyms files are > out of sync (e.g. if you are updating each machine in turn, a new machine > will be added to the cluster with a new synonyms file that is not the same > as the other machines). > > Or is the synonyms file stored with the index and not referenced again? > > Thanks > Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Greening](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chris_greening/32/2285_2.png) [@Chris\_Greening](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Chris_Greening)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 9:56am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279/3 "2013-03-25T09:56:06Z")
So when I'm updating a node in the cluster and I put a new synonyms file on that node. Will it break anything if the other nodes have an older version of the synonyms file? On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:45:10 PM UTC, simonw wrote: > your understanding is correct I'd say! > > simon > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:11:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I just wanted to check my understanding of how synonyms work with indexes > > in a cluster. > > > > Am I right in thinking that each cluster will need the same synonyms file? > > > > Will it matter if when a cluster is being updated the synonyms files are > > out of sync (e.g. if you are updating each machine in turn, a new machine > > will be added to the cluster with a new synonyms file that is not the same > > as the other machines). > > > > Or is the synonyms file stored with the index and not referenced again? > > > > Thanks > > Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![simonw\_2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/simonw_2/32/1130_2.png) [@simonw\_2](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/simonw_2)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 10:22am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279/4 "2013-03-25T10:22:05Z")
well you will be indexing / searching with new synonyms which essentially breaks your search. if you do update stuff like this you might want to consider creating a new index and rather reindex or only apply synonyms at search time and then you might see slightly different results while you upgrade but that is feasible I guess? simon On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:56:06 AM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > So when I'm updating a node in the cluster and I put a new synonyms file > on that node. Will it break anything if the other nodes have an older > version of the synonyms file? > > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:45:10 PM UTC, simonw wrote: > > > your understanding is correct I'd say! > > > > simon > > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:11:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I just wanted to check my understanding of how synonyms work with > > > indexes in a cluster. > > > > > > Am I right in thinking that each cluster will need the same synonyms > > > file? > > > > > > Will it matter if when a cluster is being updated the synonyms files are > > > out of sync (e.g. if you are updating each machine in turn, a new machine > > > will be added to the cluster with a new synonyms file that is not the same > > > as the other machines). > > > > > > Or is the synonyms file stored with the index and not referenced again? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![q42jaap](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/q42jaap/32/2241_2.png) [@q42jaap](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/q42jaap)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279/5 "2013-03-25T15:40:36Z")
Is there a feature where you can specify synonyms using the rest API? Because that might be scoped to index-creation or something. Jaap Taal [Q42 BV | tel 070 44523 42 | direct 070 44523 65 | [http://q42.nl](http://q42.nl) | Waldorpstraat 17F, Den Haag | Vijzelstraat 72 unit 4.23, Amsterdam | KvK 30164662 ] On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:22 AM, simonw [simon.willnauer@elasticsearch.com](mailto:simon.willnauer@elasticsearch.com) wrote: > well you will be indexing / searching with new synonyms which essentially > breaks your search. if you do update stuff like this you might want to > consider creating a new index and rather reindex or only apply synonyms at > search time and then you might see slightly different results while you > upgrade but that is feasible I guess? > > simon > > On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:56:06 AM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > > > So when I'm updating a node in the cluster and I put a new synonyms file > > on that node. Will it break anything if the other nodes have an older > > version of the synonyms file? > > > > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:45:10 PM UTC, simonw wrote: > > > > > your understanding is correct I'd say! > > > > > > simon > > > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:11:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I just wanted to check my understanding of how synonyms work with > > > > indexes in a cluster. > > > > > > > > Am I right in thinking that each cluster will need the same synonyms > > > > file? > > > > > > > > Will it matter if when a cluster is being updated the synonyms files are > > > > out of sync (e.g. if you are updating each machine in turn, a new machine > > > > will be added to the cluster with a new synonyms file that is not the same > > > > as the other machines). > > > > > > > > Or is the synonyms file stored with the index and not referenced again? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Chris. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Greening](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chris_greening/32/2285_2.png) [@Chris\_Greening](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Chris_Greening)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279/6 "2013-03-25T17:56:58Z")
I think it would be quite a rare thing, so creating a new index would make sense. On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:22:05 AM UTC, simonw wrote: > well you will be indexing / searching with new synonyms which essentially > breaks your search. if you do update stuff like this you might want to > consider creating a new index and rather reindex or only apply synonyms at > search time and then you might see slightly different results while you > upgrade but that is feasible I guess? > > simon > > On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:56:06 AM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > > > So when I'm updating a node in the cluster and I put a new synonyms file > > on that node. Will it break anything if the other nodes have an older > > version of the synonyms file? > > > > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:45:10 PM UTC, simonw wrote: > > > > > your understanding is correct I'd say! > > > > > > simon > > > On Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:11:02 PM UTC+1, Chris Greening wrote: > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I just wanted to check my understanding of how synonyms work with > > > > indexes in a cluster. > > > > > > > > Am I right in thinking that each cluster will need the same synonyms > > > > file? > > > > > > > > Will it matter if when a cluster is being updated the synonyms files > > > > are out of sync (e.g. if you are updating each machine in turn, a new > > > > machine will be added to the cluster with a new synonyms file that is not > > > > the same as the other machines). > > > > > > > > Or is the synonyms file stored with the index and not referenced again? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/groups/opt\_out](https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synonyms-file-in-a-cluster/11279/7 "2017-07-06T02:44:42Z")