# Synthetic monitoring or Uptime?

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synthetic-monitoring-or-uptime/364822
**Category:** Synthetics
**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synthetic-monitoring-or-uptime/364822 "2024-08-13T09:34:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author: ![olavur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/87869e/32.png) [@olavur](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/olavur)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synthetic-monitoring-or-uptime/364822/1 "2024-08-13T09:34:54Z")

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Hi,

I have an on-premise installation of Elastic and Kibana. The environment is very restricted and the agents are not allowed to pull configuration from a Fleet server. Therefore no Fleet server is installed.

Does this mean that I have to use the old heartbeat application to monitor the system ? Or is it possible to create a synthetics agent configuration without Fleet ?

I hoped I could create lightweight monitors using project monitors. But this page in the documentation says:

> The Elastic Agent must be **enrolled in Fleet** (Private Locations cannot be set up using **standalone** Elastic Agents).

Is it possible to use synthetics without Fleet ?

> **[Monitor resources on private networks | Elastic Observability \[8.15\] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/observability/current/synthetics-private-location.html)**

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### Author: ![olavur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/87869e/32.png) [@olavur](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/olavur)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synthetic-monitoring-or-uptime/364822/2 "2024-08-15T15:46:22Z")

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Is there anyone who can give some feedback to my question ?

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### Author: ![shahzad31](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/shahzad31/32/51637_2.png) [@shahzad31](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shahzad31)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/synthetic-monitoring-or-uptime/364822/3 "2024-08-15T16:00:28Z")

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@olavur it's not possible to use Synthetics in closed environment without fleet. Either you must use Elastic cloud or fleet.

Alternative is to continue to use Uptime.
