# /\_template OR /\_index\_template? **URL:** \ **Category:** Logstash\ **Tags:** docker, ilm-index-lifecycle-management\ **Created:** [March 8, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/template-or-index-template/266567 "2021-03-08T14:11:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thesn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@thesn](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/thesn)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/template-or-index-template/266567/1 "2021-03-08T14:11:31Z")
Hi, I am using ES 7.11.1 and Logstash 7.11.1 in Docker container. here is my logstash.conf: ```auto input { file { codec => "json" path => "/usr/share/logstash/config/sample.log" } } filter { } output { elasticsearch { hosts => ["http://10.6.226.80:9200"] index => "bjb-test-%{+YYYY.MM.dd}" manage_template => true template => "/usr/share/logstash/config/logstash-test-template.json" template_name => "bjb-test" } } ``` here is the logstash-test-template.json: ```auto { "template": { "settings": { "number_of_shards": "1", "number_of_replicas": "0", "refresh_interval": "10s", "codec": "best_compression", "lifecycle": { "name": "bjb-test" }, "mapping": { "total_fields": { "limit": "50" } } }, "mappings": { "dynamic": true, "numeric_detection": false, "date_detection": true, "dynamic_date_formats": [ "strict_date_optional_time", "yyyy/MM/dd HH:mm:ss Z||yyyy/MM/dd Z" ], "_source": { "enabled": true, "includes": [], "excludes": [] }, "_routing": { "required": false }, "dynamic_templates": [] } }, "index_patterns": [ "bjb-test-*" ], "data_stream": {} } ``` when I run docker-compose up -d logstash-test, i received the following error: ```auto [2021-03-08T20:45:59,983][ERROR][logstash.outputs.elasticsearch][main] Failed to install template. {:message=>"Got response code '400' contacting Elasticsearch at URL 'http://10.6.226.80:9200/_template/bjb-test'", :class=>"LogStash::Outputs::ElasticSearch::HttpClient::Pool::BadResponseCodeError", :backtrace=>["/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client/manticore_adapter.rb:80:in `perform_request'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client/pool.rb:332:in `perform_request_to_url'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client/pool.rb:319:in `block in perform_request'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client/pool.rb:414:in `with_connection'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client/pool.rb:318:in `perform_request'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client/pool.rb:326:in `block in Pool'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client.rb:352:in `template_put'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client.rb:86:in `template_install'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/template_manager.rb:28:in `install'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/template_manager.rb:16:in `install_template'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/common.rb:205:in `install_template'", "/usr/share/logstash/vendor/bundle/jruby/2.5.0/gems/logstash-output-elasticsearch-10.5.1-java/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/common.rb:49:in `block in setup_after_successful_connection'"]} ``` From the error message above, the URL is **/\_template/** While if I try to create index template using Kibana 7.11.1 Create Template wizard, the URL is **PUT \_index\_template/bjb-test** , and successful. Why Logstash is calling /\_template/... instead of \_index\_template? Is this the main source of error? Please enlighten me. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Badger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/badger/32/25190_2.png) [@Badger](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Badger)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/template-or-index-template/266567/2 "2021-03-08T17:06:07Z")
> [@thesn](#): > > Why Logstash is calling /\_template/... instead of \_index\_template? The code is using the [legacy](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/indices-templates-v1.html) template feature rather than [composable](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/index-templates.html) templates. It [decides](https://github.com/logstash-plugins/logstash-output-elasticsearch/blob/9401759a165f51e4b10dd195b1394760dc70dd92/lib/logstash/outputs/elasticsearch/http_client.rb#L357) which to use based on the elasticsearch version. ---
**Author:** ![elasticforme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f05b48/32.png) [@elasticforme](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/elasticforme)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/template-or-index-template/266567/3 "2021-03-08T18:57:12Z")
> [@thesn](#): > > `template => "/usr/share/logstash/config/logstash-test-template.json"` can you do it without this one? because if you put the template with "index\_patterns": ["bjp-test-\*"] then when you write to that index it will automatically uses that template. ---
**Author:** ![thesn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@thesn](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/thesn)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/template-or-index-template/266567/4 "2021-03-09T06:19:52Z")
Hi @Badger , Thanks for your response. Ok, so we should be using the new index template instead of the legacy one (since it is deprecated). I still want to define it via **logstash-test-template.json** file which is referred by the output section in my **logstash-test.conf** , instead of defining it manually via Kibana. Any reference on how to achieve that? and would be great if there is a valid template.json I can refer to. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![thesn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@thesn](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/thesn)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2021, 4:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/template-or-index-template/266567/5 "2021-03-10T04:20:09Z")
Hi @elasticforme , I do want to define the index-template in a file (instead of defining it manually in Kibana. That way, I can keep all the configuration in a git repo. I used ES / Logstash 7.8 with the mentioned index-template, and it was running. But when I try to setup the same config in ES / Logstash 7.11.1, it failed. I wonder if there is any reference I can look into. Thank you, Satria ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 4:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/template-or-index-template/266567/6 "2021-04-07T04:20:13Z")
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