# Temporarily adding nodes or, can you scale down? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [September 23, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111 "2012-09-23T15:08:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mohamed_Lrhazi)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 3:08pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/1 "2012-09-23T15:08:29Z")
Hello, I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a project. One question I have is this: Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up the indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation afterwards? Thanks a lot, Mohamed. -- ---
**Author:** ![Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mohamed_Lrhazi)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/2 "2012-09-24T19:37:17Z")
I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is not possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong way? Thank you so much, Mohamed. On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote: > Hello, > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a project. > One question I have is this: > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up the > indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation afterwards? > > Thanks a lot, > Mohamed. -- ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Craig\_Brown](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Craig_Brown)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/3 "2012-09-24T19:43:48Z")
We are running on AWS and index our data on the fastest nodes we can get, then go back and reduce the nodes to smaller/slower instances to save money. We don't scale the number of nodes, just the speed/cost of the nodes. If you're using your own hardware, that would be tougher to do. The other shoe may be to look at how to index data more efficiently so that you don't require so many nodes. - Craig On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml623@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml623@georgetown.edu)wrote: > I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is not > possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong way? > > Thank you so much, > Mohamed. > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a > > project. One question I have is this: > > > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up the > > indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation afterwards? > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Mohamed. > > -- -- … CRAIG BROWN youwho, Inc. [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) T: 801.855. 0921 M: 801.913. 0939 -- ---
**Author:** ![Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mohamed_Lrhazi)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/4 "2012-09-24T20:04:26Z")
Thanks Craig... Are you not lowering the number of nodes because that is difficult/impossible, or because it's just trivial on AWS? and thanks for the other shoe idea. I don't know ES just yet... and I am basically asking: If I use say 10 nodes, I assume my data would end up being distributed more or less evenly of all 10... Is there a process in ES by which one can move "everything" (data/index) off of one node, so as to remove it afterwards? even a manual process? Thanks a lot, Mohamed. On Monday, September 24, 2012 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > We are running on AWS and index our data on the fastest nodes we can get, > then go back and reduce the nodes to smaller/slower instances to save > money. We don't scale the number of nodes, just the speed/cost of the > nodes. If you're using your own hardware, that would be tougher to do. > > The other shoe may be to look at how to index data more efficiently so > that you don't require so many nodes. > > - Craig > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi \ > > > wrote: > > > I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is not > > possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong way? > > > > Thank you so much, > > Mohamed. > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a > > > project. One question I have is this: > > > > > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up the > > > indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation afterwards? > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > Mohamed. > > > > -- > > -- > … > CRAIG BROWN > youwho, Inc. > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > T: 801.855. 0921 > M: 801.913. 0939 -- ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Craig\_Brown](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Craig_Brown)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/5 "2012-09-24T20:13:08Z")
I really haven't played around with reducing the number of nodes in the cluster. I'm not sure of a way to really do that right now, though someone else may have a better idea. I know there is an upcoming release where you can manually move shards to particular nodes. The cluster will try to rebalance the remaining shards across the cluster, but that can be turned off. I assume that with the new release you could turn off rebalancing, manually specify the new shard placements, remove the nodes/nodes, then turn on rebalancing and have the cluster get back to green status, but I don't know for sure. Shay would probably be the best one to answer that. I'm not sure if that release will be 0.19.10 or 0.20.1. - Craig On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml623@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml623@georgetown.edu)wrote: > Thanks Craig... Are you not lowering the number of nodes because that > is difficult/impossible, or because it's just trivial on AWS? > and thanks for the other shoe idea. > > I don't know ES just yet... and I am basically asking: If I use say 10 > nodes, I assume my data would end up being distributed more or less evenly > of all 10... Is there a process in ES by which one can move "everything" > (data/index) off of one node, so as to remove it afterwards? even a manual > process? > > Thanks a lot, > Mohamed. > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > We are running on AWS and index our data on the fastest nodes we can get, > > then go back and reduce the nodes to smaller/slower instances to save > > money. We don't scale the number of nodes, just the speed/cost of the > > nodes. If you're using your own hardware, that would be tougher to do. > > > > The other shoe may be to look at how to index data more efficiently so > > that you don't require so many nodes. > > > > - Craig > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml...@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > > > I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is not > > > possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong way? > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a > > > > project. One question I have is this: > > > > > > > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up the > > > > indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation afterwards? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > … > > CRAIG BROWN > > youwho, Inc. > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > -- -- … CRAIG BROWN youwho, Inc. [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) T: 801.855. 0921 M: 801.913. 0939 -- ---
**Author:** ![Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mohamed_Lrhazi)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/6 "2012-09-24T20:38:17Z")
Very useful info for me, I'll read about the newer releases too. Thanks a lot, Mohamed, On Monday, September 24, 2012 4:13:11 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > I really haven't played around with reducing the number of nodes in the > cluster. I'm not sure of a way to really do that right now, though someone > else may have a better idea. I know there is an upcoming release where you > can manually move shards to particular nodes. The cluster will try to > rebalance the remaining shards across the cluster, but that can be turned > off. > > I assume that with the new release you could turn off rebalancing, > manually specify the new shard placements, remove the nodes/nodes, then > turn on rebalancing and have the cluster get back to green status, but I > don't know for sure. Shay would probably be the best one to answer that. > I'm not sure if that release will be 0.19.10 or 0.20.1. > > - Craig > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi \ > > > wrote: > > > Thanks Craig... Are you not lowering the number of nodes because that > > is difficult/impossible, or because it's just trivial on AWS? > > and thanks for the other shoe idea. > > > > I don't know ES just yet... and I am basically asking: If I use say 10 > > nodes, I assume my data would end up being distributed more or less evenly > > of all 10... Is there a process in ES by which one can move "everything" > > (data/index) off of one node, so as to remove it afterwards? even a manual > > process? > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Mohamed. > > > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > > > We are running on AWS and index our data on the fastest nodes we can > > > get, then go back and reduce the nodes to smaller/slower instances to save > > > money. We don't scale the number of nodes, just the speed/cost of the > > > nodes. If you're using your own hardware, that would be tougher to do. > > > > > > The other shoe may be to look at how to index data more efficiently so > > > that you don't require so many nodes. > > > > > > - Craig > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml...@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > > > > > I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is > > > > not possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong > > > > way? > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a > > > > > project. One question I have is this: > > > > > > > > > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up the > > > > > indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation afterwards? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > … > > > CRAIG BROWN > > > youwho, Inc. > > > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > > > -- > > -- > … > CRAIG BROWN > youwho, Inc. > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > T: 801.855. 0921 > M: 801.913. 0939 -- ---
**Author:** ![David\_Williams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90ced4/32.png) [@David\_Williams](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/David_Williams)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/7 "2012-09-24T21:30:24Z")
this page tells you how to migrate all the shards off a node for decommissioning: > **[Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale](https://www.elastic.co)** > > Power insights and outcomes with the Elasticsearch Platform and AI. See into your data and find answers that matter with enterprise solutions designed to help you build, observe, and protect. Try Elasticsearch free today. the example looks like this: curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d '{ "transient" : { "cluster.routing.allocation.exclude.\_ip" : "10.0.0.1" } }' On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml623@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml623@georgetown.edu)wrote: > Very useful info for me, I'll read about the newer releases too. > > Thanks a lot, > Mohamed, > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 4:13:11 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > I really haven't played around with reducing the number of nodes in the > > cluster. I'm not sure of a way to really do that right now, though someone > > else may have a better idea. I know there is an upcoming release where you > > can manually move shards to particular nodes. The cluster will try to > > rebalance the remaining shards across the cluster, but that can be turned > > off. > > > > I assume that with the new release you could turn off rebalancing, > > manually specify the new shard placements, remove the nodes/nodes, then > > turn on rebalancing and have the cluster get back to green status, but I > > don't know for sure. Shay would probably be the best one to answer that. > > I'm not sure if that release will be 0.19.10 or 0.20.1. > > > > - Craig > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml...@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > > > Thanks Craig... Are you not lowering the number of nodes because that > > > is difficult/impossible, or because it's just trivial on AWS? > > > and thanks for the other shoe idea. > > > > > > I don't know ES just yet... and I am basically asking: If I use say 10 > > > nodes, I assume my data would end up being distributed more or less evenly > > > of all 10... Is there a process in ES by which one can move "everything" > > > (data/index) off of one node, so as to remove it afterwards? even a manual > > > process? > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > > > > > We are running on AWS and index our data on the fastest nodes we can > > > > get, then go back and reduce the nodes to smaller/slower instances to save > > > > money. We don't scale the number of nodes, just the speed/cost of the > > > > nodes. If you're using your own hardware, that would be tougher to do. > > > > > > > > The other shoe may be to look at how to index data more efficiently so > > > > that you don't require so many nodes. > > > > > > > > - Craig > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml...@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > > > > > > > I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is > > > > > not possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong > > > > > way? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a > > > > > > project. One question I have is this: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up > > > > > > the indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation > > > > > > afterwards? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > > > > … > > > > CRAIG BROWN > > > > youwho, Inc. > > > > > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > … > > CRAIG BROWN > > youwho, Inc. > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > -- -- ---
**Author:** ![Craig\_Brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Craig\_Brown](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Craig_Brown)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/8 "2012-09-24T21:53:14Z")
Ya, forgot about that. You can add the nodes you want to remove to the exclude list and ES will take care of the rest. - Craig On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:30 PM, David Williams [williams.david@gmail.com](mailto:williams.david@gmail.com)wrote: > this page tells you how to migrate all the shards off a node > for decommissioning: > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/index-modules/allocation.html) > > the example looks like this: > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d '{ > "transient" : { > "cluster.routing.allocation.exclude.\_ip" : "10.0.0.1" > } > }' > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml623@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml623@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > Very useful info for me, I'll read about the newer releases too. > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Mohamed, > > > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 4:13:11 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > > > I really haven't played around with reducing the number of nodes in the > > > cluster. I'm not sure of a way to really do that right now, though someone > > > else may have a better idea. I know there is an upcoming release where you > > > can manually move shards to particular nodes. The cluster will try to > > > rebalance the remaining shards across the cluster, but that can be turned > > > off. > > > > > > I assume that with the new release you could turn off rebalancing, > > > manually specify the new shard placements, remove the nodes/nodes, then > > > turn on rebalancing and have the cluster get back to green status, but I > > > don't know for sure. Shay would probably be the best one to answer that. > > > I'm not sure if that release will be 0.19.10 or 0.20.1. > > > > > > - Craig > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml...@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Craig... Are you not lowering the number of nodes because that > > > > is difficult/impossible, or because it's just trivial on AWS? > > > > and thanks for the other shoe idea. > > > > > > > > I don't know ES just yet... and I am basically asking: If I use say 10 > > > > nodes, I assume my data would end up being distributed more or less evenly > > > > of all 10... Is there a process in ES by which one can move "everything" > > > > (data/index) off of one node, so as to remove it afterwards? even a manual > > > > process? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > We are running on AWS and index our data on the fastest nodes we can > > > > > get, then go back and reduce the nodes to smaller/slower instances to save > > > > > money. We don't scale the number of nodes, just the speed/cost of the > > > > > nodes. If you're using your own hardware, that would be tougher to do. > > > > > > > > > > The other shoe may be to look at how to index data more efficiently so > > > > > that you don't require so many nodes. > > > > > > > > > > - Craig > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml...@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is > > > > > > not possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong > > > > > > way? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a > > > > > > > project. One question I have is this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up > > > > > > > the indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation > > > > > > > afterwards? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > … > > > > > CRAIG BROWN > > > > > youwho, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > > > > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > > > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > … > > > CRAIG BROWN > > > youwho, Inc. > > > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > > > -- > > -- -- … CRAIG BROWN youwho, Inc. [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) T: 801.855. 0921 M: 801.913. 0939 -- ---
**Author:** ![Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Mohamed\_Lrhazi](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mohamed_Lrhazi)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/temporarily-adding-nodes-or-can-you-scale-down/9111/9 "2012-09-24T23:14:42Z")
Alright... one curl command to downsize my cluster... How cool is that? Thanks a lot guys, Mohamed. On Monday, September 24, 2012 5:53:17 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > Ya, forgot about that. You can add the nodes you want to remove to the > exclude list and ES will take care of the rest. > > - Craig > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:30 PM, David Williams \<[william...@gmail.com](mailto:william...@gmail.com)\ > > > wrote: > > > this page tells you how to migrate all the shards off a node > > for decommissioning: > > [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/index-modules/allocation.html) > > > > the example looks like this: > > > > curl -XPUT localhost:9200/\_cluster/settings -d '{ > > "transient" : { > > "cluster.routing.allocation.exclude.\_ip" : "10.0.0.1" > > } > > }' > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi \ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Very useful info for me, I'll read about the newer releases too. > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > Mohamed, > > > > > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 4:13:11 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > > > > > I really haven't played around with reducing the number of nodes in the > > > > cluster. I'm not sure of a way to really do that right now, though someone > > > > else may have a better idea. I know there is an upcoming release where you > > > > can manually move shards to particular nodes. The cluster will try to > > > > rebalance the remaining shards across the cluster, but that can be turned > > > > off. > > > > > > > > I assume that with the new release you could turn off rebalancing, > > > > manually specify the new shard placements, remove the nodes/nodes, then > > > > turn on rebalancing and have the cluster get back to green status, but I > > > > don't know for sure. Shay would probably be the best one to answer that. > > > > I'm not sure if that release will be 0.19.10 or 0.20.1. > > > > > > > > - Craig > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi [ml...@georgetown.edu](mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu)wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Craig... Are you not lowering the number of nodes because that > > > > > is difficult/impossible, or because it's just trivial on AWS? > > > > > and thanks for the other shoe idea. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know ES just yet... and I am basically asking: If I use say 10 > > > > > nodes, I assume my data would end up being distributed more or less evenly > > > > > of all 10... Is there a process in ES by which one can move "everything" > > > > > (data/index) off of one node, so as to remove it afterwards? even a manual > > > > > process? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 24, 2012 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, Craig Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > We are running on AWS and index our data on the fastest nodes we can > > > > > > get, then go back and reduce the nodes to smaller/slower instances to save > > > > > > money. We don't scale the number of nodes, just the speed/cost of the > > > > > > nodes. If you're using your own hardware, that would be tougher to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other shoe may be to look at how to index data more efficiently > > > > > > so that you don't require so many nodes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi \ > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was hoping my question would get a quick RTFM reply... Maybe it is > > > > > > > not possible to scale down? Or am I thinking about my problem in the wrong > > > > > > > way? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, > > > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:08:29 AM UTC-4, Mohamed Lrhazi > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not used elasticsearch before, but am considering it for a > > > > > > > > project. One question I have is this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you start off with a big number of nodes, in order to speed up > > > > > > > > the indexing of legacy data, then scale down for normal operation > > > > > > > > afterwards? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > > > > > Mohamed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > … > > > > > > CRAIG BROWN > > > > > > youwho, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > > > > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -- > > > > … > > > > CRAIG BROWN > > > > youwho, Inc. > > > > > > > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > > > > > > > T: 801.855. 0921 > > > > M: 801.913. 0939 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > -- > … > CRAIG BROWN > youwho, Inc. > > [www.youwho.com](http://www.youwho.com) > > T: 801.855. 0921 > M: 801.913. 0939 -- ---
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