# Three nodes cluster without quorum

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/three-nodes-cluster-without-quorum/310632
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [July 26, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/three-nodes-cluster-without-quorum/310632 "2022-07-26T11:33:11Z")
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### Author: ![vnovotny98](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/vnovotny98/32/124809_2.png) [@vnovotny98](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/vnovotny98)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/three-nodes-cluster-without-quorum/310632/1 "2022-07-26T11:33:11Z")

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Hello.  
I am new here in this community.  
I have a three nodes cluster but two nodes are on the same virt and one on another.  
I need to set them like three masters and three data nodes. When I am updating the virt I need to shut down two of the cluster nodes and I lost quorum and elasticsearch stopped, how can I avoid that when **discovery.zen.minimum\_master\_nodes** is deprecated since 6 where I last worked.  
thank you for help!

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### Author: ![DavidTurner](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/davidturner/32/22453_2.png) [@DavidTurner](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/DavidTurner)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/three-nodes-cluster-without-quorum/310632/2 "2022-07-26T12:18:52Z")

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You must remove the master nodes following the process described in the manual:

> **[Add and remove nodes in your cluster | Elasticsearch Guide \[8.14\] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/add-elasticsearch-nodes.html#modules-discovery-removing-nodes)**

Note that you effectively have a [two-zone cluster](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/high-availability-cluster-design-large-clusters.html#high-availability-cluster-design-two-zones) which is not possible to make resilient to the loss of either "zone".

> [@vnovotny98](#):
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> since 6 where I last worked.

It didn't work in v6 either - it mostly looked like it did but doing this would occasionally result in data loss.

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### Author: ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/three-nodes-cluster-without-quorum/310632/3 "2022-08-23T12:19:40Z")

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