# Unable to create index pattern in Kibana from Index with Template Applied

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unable-to-create-index-pattern-in-kibana-from-index-with-template-applied/132243>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [May 17, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unable-to-create-index-pattern-in-kibana-from-index-with-template-applied/132243 "2018-05-17T03:36:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![MaktonC6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MaktonC6](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/MaktonC6)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unable-to-create-index-pattern-in-kibana-from-index-with-template-applied/132243/1 "2018-05-17T03:36:09Z")

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I have a really strange issue that I have not seen within Kibana before. I created index templates for my apache log files, which I have parsing with FileBeat/Logstash.

When the templates are in Elastic and I dump in the log data. The indexes are created and are using the template, but I cannot create an index pattern in Kibana to see the indexes. Kibana does not see the indexes but I see them in elastic from the "Dev Tools"

if I dump the data in elastic, with "no" templates, then they show up in "Index Patterns" and I can create the pattern and see the data in Kibana.

Again, using templates, I do not see the indexes under "Index Patterns" within Kibana, but the indexes are in Elastic.

Any Ideas?

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**Author:** ![MaktonC6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MaktonC6](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/MaktonC6)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unable-to-create-index-pattern-in-kibana-from-index-with-template-applied/132243/2 "2018-05-17T03:55:26Z")

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little addition. Looks like the index is being made, but nothing is going into it. Checking the Stats on the index with the template applied is showing "index\_total" as 0, but another copy of the index that is not using the template shows "index\_total" as 1006.

Looks like the Template is a bit strict and this would put this situation into the ElastisSearch area and not Kibana.

I'll work on the template some more.. Thank you

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**Author:** ![bhavyarm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/bhavyarm/32/22392_2.png) [@bhavyarm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bhavyarm)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unable-to-create-index-pattern-in-kibana-from-index-with-template-applied/132243/3 "2018-05-17T15:11:47Z")

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Interesting.  
This little handy trick lets you know if you have data in your elasticsearch:

```auto
http://localhost:9200/_cat/indices

```

Hope you get to sort it out.

Cheers,  
Bhavya

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unable-to-create-index-pattern-in-kibana-from-index-with-template-applied/132243/4 "2018-06-14T15:12:00Z")

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