# Understand and using relationships without mapping types (6.0)

**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/understand-and-using-relationships-without-mapping-types-6-0/109863
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Created:** [December 1, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/understand-and-using-relationships-without-mapping-types-6-0/109863 "2017-12-01T01:59:57Z")
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### Author: ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/understand-and-using-relationships-without-mapping-types-6-0/109863/2 "2017-12-01T18:30:54Z")

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> How do I track those relationships?

Do you need to?

I mean that the main questions to ask yourself are about the `What` and then think about the `How`.

- So what are my users going to search for?
- What kind of information do they need to search for those entities?

That's IMHO the main major questions to ask before trying to think about the implementation. I'm used to say at conferences that forgetting about all the stuff you learned at school about Relational Databases is one of the hardest thing to do when you want to play with Document Oriented systems. It's really not that easy to change your mindset, specifically when you did that for years. At least, that was my experience when I introduced Elasticsearch and CouchDB at $job-1.

I tried to explain my thoughts there:

> [@ES6.0: multiple types, indexes, relationships puzzle](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/es6-0-multiple-types-indexes-relationships-puzzle/108984/2):
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> The challenge is, of course, in the relationships. I agree. This is a challenge with a tool which is not a relational database. To find the "best" way IMHO to do what you want to do in a efficient way (at search time), you need to ask yourself some questions: What my users are going to search for? Places? Events? Vouchers? News? What properties are needed for users to search such objects? Let say you want to be able to search for Events and News. And that you want to be able to search fo…

I hope this can help.

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