# Unknown indexes created in kibana

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unknown-indexes-created-in-kibana/218589>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [February 10, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unknown-indexes-created-in-kibana/218589 "2020-02-10T12:54:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Incauto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/incauto/32/60149_2.png) [@Incauto](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Incauto)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unknown-indexes-created-in-kibana/218589/1 "2020-02-10T12:54:44Z")

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Hi I have 2 indexes that I didnt create in kibana, one is call "UptimeIndexPattern", and the other is call "apm-\*"

Anynone knows if there where created automatically by kibana, or anithing?

there is a programer using the api, but its very skillfull, I don think is hes doing.

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**Author:** ![Mikhail\_Shustov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/mikhail_shustov/32/49186_2.png) [@Mikhail\_Shustov](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Mikhail_Shustov)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unknown-indexes-created-in-kibana/218589/2 "2020-02-10T13:32:17Z")

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> [@Incauto](#):
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> Anynone knows if there where created automatically by kibana, or anithing?

Yes, Kibana creates them to store internal data. You can make check whether an index is a system:

- navigate to Management \> Elasticsearch \> Index management
- toggle “Include system indices”

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**Author:** ![Incauto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/incauto/32/60149_2.png) [@Incauto](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Incauto)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unknown-indexes-created-in-kibana/218589/3 "2020-02-10T14:09:37Z")

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Hi, Mikhail. I always disable the system indices, so I only view the indexes created by me, so the indices where showing without the include system indices enabled

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unknown-indexes-created-in-kibana/218589/4 "2020-03-09T14:09:39Z")

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