# Unsure of growth of index when nothing happening (clean install)

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unsure-of-growth-of-index-when-nothing-happening-clean-install/18360>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [June 27, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unsure-of-growth-of-index-when-nothing-happening-clean-install/18360 "2014-06-27T00:07:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grant\_Christensen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dec6dc/32.png) [@Grant\_Christensen](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Grant_Christensen)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unsure-of-growth-of-index-when-nothing-happening-clean-install/18360/1 "2014-06-27T00:07:40Z")

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Hi all, first time Elasticsearch user.

I am using Elastic as part of running SugarCRM 7 on-site, as it is a  
pre-req. I have a clean Ubuntu 14.04 install with a LAMP stack and Java  
installed. I have installed Elasticsearch using apt-get based on the  
repository instructions on the Elastic site.

I installed Marvel to see what was happening, and straight away I am seeing  
Index growth, even though nothing is happening on the box. I assume it was  
some initial indexing as the service get configured, but I left it for a  
week and it continued to grow. At this stage no one is using Sugar and  
there is no data in it, so it should not be indexing anything.

After a week I have 500,000 documents in the index, and nearly a GB of data  
consumed. How could this be?

I have just done a fresh re-install to try again, and it is indexing again.  
The index requests on Marvel show a consistent 0.5 per second always.  
Where could this be coming from, or how can I fidn out. How can I see  
what all the documents allegedly are?

I am still in the process of configuring Sugar, but hesitant to start  
loading data and going live until I am comfortable Elastic is running  
properly.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unsure-of-growth-of-index-when-nothing-happening-clean-install/18360/2 "2014-06-27T00:10:25Z")

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Which index is growing?  
Chances are it is the marvel index(es), which is expected.

Regards,  
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer  
Campaign Monitor  
email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)

On 27 June 2014 10:07, Grant Christensen \<grant.christensen@supercorp.com.au

> wrote:

> Hi all, first time Elasticsearch user.
> 
> I am using Elastic as part of running SugarCRM 7 on-site, as it is a  
> pre-req. I have a clean Ubuntu 14.04 install with a LAMP stack and Java  
> installed. I have installed Elasticsearch using apt-get based on the  
> repository instructions on the Elastic site.
> 
> I installed Marvel to see what was happening, and straight away I am  
> seeing Index growth, even though nothing is happening on the box. I assume  
> it was some initial indexing as the service get configured, but I left it  
> for a week and it continued to grow. At this stage no one is using Sugar  
> and there is no data in it, so it should not be indexing anything.
> 
> After a week I have 500,000 documents in the index, and nearly a GB of  
> data consumed. How could this be?
> 
> I have just done a fresh re-install to try again, and it is indexing  
> again. The index requests on Marvel show a consistent 0.5 per second  
> always. Where could this be coming from, or how can I fidn out. How can I  
> see what all the documents allegedly are?
> 
> I am still in the process of configuring Sugar, but hesitant to start  
> loading data and going live until I am comfortable Elastic is running  
> properly.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unsure-of-growth-of-index-when-nothing-happening-clean-install/18360/3 "2014-06-27T00:11:54Z")

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Yes that is correct. Looks like a daily Marvel index is growing. Is this the plugin grabbing stats?

Grant Christensen  
General Manager - Sales and Product

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Subject: Re: Unsure of growth of index when nothing happening (clean install)

Which index is growing?  
Chances are it is the marvel index(es), which is expected.

Regards,  
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer  
Campaign Monitor  
email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)[mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)[http://www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)

On 27 June 2014 10:07, Grant Christensen \<grant.christensen@supercorp.com.au[mailto:grant.christensen@supercorp.com.au](mailto:grant.christensen@supercorp.com.au)\> wrote:  
Hi all, first time Elasticsearch user.

I am using Elastic as part of running SugarCRM 7 on-site, as it is a pre-req. I have a clean Ubuntu 14.04 install with a LAMP stack and Java installed. I have installed Elasticsearch using apt-get based on the repository instructions on the Elastic site.

I installed Marvel to see what was happening, and straight away I am seeing Index growth, even though nothing is happening on the box. I assume it was some initial indexing as the service get configured, but I left it for a week and it continued to grow. At this stage no one is using Sugar and there is no data in it, so it should not be indexing anything.

After a week I have 500,000 documents in the index, and nearly a GB of data consumed. How could this be?

I have just done a fresh re-install to try again, and it is indexing again. The index requests on Marvel show a consistent 0.5 per second always. Where could this be coming from, or how can I fidn out. How can I see what all the documents allegedly are?

I am still in the process of configuring Sugar, but hesitant to start loading data and going live until I am comfortable Elastic is running properly.

## Thanks for any suggestions.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unsure-of-growth-of-index-when-nothing-happening-clean-install/18360/4 "2014-06-27T00:36:03Z")

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Sure is.

There's more info in the docs

> **[Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale](https://www.elastic.co)**
>
> Power insights and outcomes with the Elasticsearch Platform and AI. See into your data and find answers that matter with enterprise solutions designed to help you build, observe, and protect. Try Elasticsearch free today.

Regards,  
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer  
Campaign Monitor  
email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)

On 27 June 2014 10:11, Grant Christensen \<Grant.Christensen@supercorp.com.au

> wrote:

> Yes that is correct. Looks like a daily Marvel index is growing. Is  
> this the plugin grabbing stats?
> 
> _Grant Christensen_  
> General Manager - Sales and Product
> 
> [image: More about Supercorp] [http://www.supercorp.com.au/](http://www.supercorp.com.au/)
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> _To:_ [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)  
> _Subject:_ Re: Unsure of growth of index when nothing happening (clean  
> install)
> 
> Which index is growing?
> 
> Chances are it is the marvel index(es), which is expected.
> 
> Regards,  
> Mark Walkom
> 
> Infrastructure Engineer  
> Campaign Monitor  
> email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> 
> On 27 June 2014 10:07, Grant Christensen \<  
> grant.christensen@supercorp.com.au\> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, first time Elasticsearch user.
> 
> I am using Elastic as part of running SugarCRM 7 on-site, as it is a  
> pre-req. I have a clean Ubuntu 14.04 install with a LAMP stack and Java  
> installed. I have installed Elasticsearch using apt-get based on the  
> repository instructions on the Elastic site.
> 
> I installed Marvel to see what was happening, and straight away I am  
> seeing Index growth, even though nothing is happening on the box. I assume  
> it was some initial indexing as the service get configured, but I left it  
> for a week and it continued to grow. At this stage no one is using Sugar  
> and there is no data in it, so it should not be indexing anything.
> 
> After a week I have 500,000 documents in the index, and nearly a GB of  
> data consumed. How could this be?
> 
> I have just done a fresh re-install to try again, and it is indexing  
> again. The index requests on Marvel show a consistent 0.5 per second  
> always. Where could this be coming from, or how can I fidn out. How can I  
> see what all the documents allegedly are?
> 
> I am still in the process of configuring Sugar, but hesitant to start  
> loading data and going live until I am comfortable Elastic is running  
> properly.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
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**Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/unsure-of-growth-of-index-when-nothing-happening-clean-install/18360/5 "2014-06-28T17:51:57Z")

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Grant,

Marvel collects ES stats and put's them in a daily index for historical  
reference. You can decide how many days of history you then want to keep.  
Curator ( [GitHub - elastic/curator: Curator: Tending your Elasticsearch indices](https://github.com/elasticsearch/curator) ) is a handy tool to use  
in a cronjob to achieve this.

Cheers,  
Boaz

On Friday, June 27, 2014 2:36:36 AM UTC+2, Mark Walkom wrote:

> Sure is.
> 
> There's more info in the docs  
> [Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic](http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/marvel/current/)
> 
> Regards,  
> Mark Walkom
> 
> Infrastructure Engineer  
> Campaign Monitor  
> email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> 
> On 27 June 2014 10:11, Grant Christensen \<  
> Grant.Christensen@supercorp.com.au\> wrote:
> 
> > Yes that is correct. Looks like a daily Marvel index is growing. Is  
> > this the plugin grabbing stats?
> > 
> > _Grant Christensen_  
> > General Manager - Sales and Product
> > 
> > [image: More about Supercorp] [http://www.supercorp.com.au/](http://www.supercorp.com.au/)
> > 
> > _e: Grant.Christensen@supercorp.com.au  
> > %20Grant.Christensen@supercorp.com.au | p: (07) 3850 1200 | f: (07) 3850  
> > 1490 | w: [http://www.supercorp.com.au](http://www.supercorp.com.au) [http://www.supercorp.com.au](http://www.supercorp.com.au)_
> > 
> > _location: Level 4, 16 Marie Street, Milton, QLD 4064, AUSTRALIA |  
> > postal: GPO Box 1525, Brisbane, QLD 4001, AUSTRALIA_
> > 
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> > _Sent:_ Friday, 27 June 2014 10:10 AM  
> > _To:_ [elasticsearch@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch@googlegroups.com)  
> > _Subject:_ Re: Unsure of growth of index when nothing happening (clean  
> > install)
> > 
> > Which index is growing?
> > 
> > Chances are it is the marvel index(es), which is expected.
> > 
> > Regards,  
> > Mark Walkom
> > 
> > Infrastructure Engineer  
> > Campaign Monitor  
> > email: [markw@campaignmonitor.com](mailto:markw@campaignmonitor.com)  
> > web: [www.campaignmonitor.com](http://www.campaignmonitor.com)
> > 
> > On 27 June 2014 10:07, Grant Christensen \<  
> > grant.christensen@supercorp.com.au\> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all, first time Elasticsearch user.
> > 
> > I am using Elastic as part of running SugarCRM 7 on-site, as it is a  
> > pre-req. I have a clean Ubuntu 14.04 install with a LAMP stack and Java  
> > installed. I have installed Elasticsearch using apt-get based on the  
> > repository instructions on the Elastic site.
> > 
> > I installed Marvel to see what was happening, and straight away I am  
> > seeing Index growth, even though nothing is happening on the box. I assume  
> > it was some initial indexing as the service get configured, but I left it  
> > for a week and it continued to grow. At this stage no one is using Sugar  
> > and there is no data in it, so it should not be indexing anything.
> > 
> > After a week I have 500,000 documents in the index, and nearly a GB of  
> > data consumed. How could this be?
> > 
> > I have just done a fresh re-install to try again, and it is indexing  
> > again. The index requests on Marvel show a consistent 0.5 per second  
> > always. Where could this be coming from, or how can I fidn out. How can I  
> > see what all the documents allegedly are?
> > 
> > I am still in the process of configuring Sugar, but hesitant to start  
> > loading data and going live until I am comfortable Elastic is running  
> > properly.
> > 
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
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