# Upgrade elasticsearch , kibana - what should be flow and steps
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017
**Category:** Elasticsearch
**Tags:** docker
**Created:** [August 21, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017 "2019-08-21T00:16:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/1 "2019-08-21T00:16:44Z")
Hi guys,
I am new to elastic search, can anyone plesae guide me and tel me what are the steps to upgrade from v 6.4.2 to the latest version and Kibana as well which is v 6.4.3....
A step by step or flow will actually help me to achieve my goal....
also we are using fluent-bit, so what should be I doing logically...
thanks in advance
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/2 "2019-08-21T02:03:36Z")
Something like this? [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elastic-stack/current/index.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elastic-stack/current/index.html)
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2019, 9:31am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/3 "2019-08-22T09:31:39Z")
hi david,
thanks for it, hey one more thing to know,
if I upgrade elastic search, do I need to update kibana and fluentd as well...
cheers
aqeel
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/4 "2019-08-22T09:53:38Z")
kibana: yes
fluentd: i don't know
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/5 "2019-08-22T19:59:17Z")
hi,
thanks for the reply, should I update Kibana first or elasticsearch.
cheers
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/6 "2019-08-22T23:34:43Z")
hello sir ,
another question
- I had a 3 node cluster ( 2 data and 1 master ), if I go with a roll back upgrade option, should I just target the first 2 data nodes ( one by one ) and then the master , dont know exactly which approach should be the right one .
thanks again for your help in advance .
cheers
aqeel
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/7 "2019-08-23T00:04:34Z")
The link I shared tells that.
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### Author:  [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/8 "2019-08-23T00:07:20Z")
Thé elasticsearch upgrade documentation does not tell anything about a typical order. Note that as soon you will shut down a master another will be elected anyway.
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/9 "2019-08-23T01:21:20Z")
hi david ,
thanks for it, could not find exactly about the master and data nodes upgrade option in the doc, can you please point me in the right direction...thanks
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/10 "2019-08-23T05:21:20Z")
Hi,
How i can ssh into the nodes, as its SAAS service, i dont think i can ssh into the nodes.
Cheers
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### Author:  [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 5:23am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/11 "2019-08-23T05:23:40Z")
> [@shappy123](#):
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> as its SAAS service
Where is it hosted? Elastic Cloud?
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/12 "2019-08-23T05:26:32Z")
> [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](#):
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@Christian\_Dahlqvist..yes its in the the elastic cloud ( [cloud.elastic.co](http://cloud.elastic.co)).
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/13 "2019-08-23T05:35:34Z")
@Christian_Dahlqvist.. i am trying to take snapshot backups but not sure.....how to achieve it... I was folloing this article but it seems has nothing to do with elastic in the cloud.... [https://linuxaws.wordpress.com/2018/09/21/how-to-create-snapshots-of-elasticsearch-cluster-data-and-restore/](https://linuxaws.wordpress.com/2018/09/21/how-to-create-snapshots-of-elasticsearch-cluster-data-and-restore/)
and [https://qbox.io/blog/elasticsearch-data-snapshots-restore-tutorial](https://qbox.io/blog/elasticsearch-data-snapshots-restore-tutorial)...
would be great if you can guide me how to take snapshot backups... as in the document here [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/6.4/modules-snapshots.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/6.4/modules-snapshots.html)
cant actually figure out.. where should i place my backup. for example if i want to backup in an azure storage, or locally on my system ho i may do it.... the documentaion doesnt help much....
Cheers
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### Author:  [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 5:41am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/14 "2019-08-23T05:41:41Z")
If you are on Elastic Cloud [upgrading is easy](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/cloud/current/ec-upgrade-deployment.html) and you can do it through the UI. It will take snapshots for you, so most of the steps outlined in the posts you linked to you do not need to worry about. I would recommend upgrading to version 6.8, which is the latest 6.x release and should be backwards compatible with your current version.
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 6:12am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/15 "2019-08-23T06:12:06Z")
hi Christian,
thanks for your reply, so means when I click on the upgrade option to 6.8 thorugh the UI , it will open the upgrade assistant I suppose and from there will take the snapshot and backup, the verison is 6.4. and yes I will be moving to 6.8...
but I was reading about the rolling upgrades , I suppose that is not required in my scenario....just as knowledge if if I dont want to use the UI, can I still use the rolling upgrade option...
cheers
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### Author:  [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 6:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/16 "2019-08-23T06:20:06Z")
The service automatically does a rolling upgrade for you according to best practices, assuming you have more than one data node.
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/17 "2019-08-23T06:34:15Z")
had 2 data nodes and 1 master node
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### Author:  [@shappy123](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shappy123)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/18 "2019-08-29T00:45:20Z")
Hi Christian,
thanks for your advise, the upgrade was smooth,
Can you please guide me how I can enable log rotation and work on it.
cheers
aqeel
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### Author:  [@Christian\_Dahlqvist](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Christian_Dahlqvist)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/19 "2019-08-29T04:05:48Z")
You can’t. As you are using a managed service you have no access to the shell and these kind of things are handled for you. Logs are made available through the management console on Elastic Cloud so I would recommend getting familiar with this.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-elasticsearch-kibana-what-should-be-flow-and-steps/196017/20 "2019-09-26T04:05:57Z")
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