# Upgrade security index while ES upgrade from version 7 to 8

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-security-index-while-es-upgrade-from-version-7-to-8/366935>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Tags:** elastic-stack-security\
**Created:** [September 23, 2024, 6:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-security-index-while-es-upgrade-from-version-7-to-8/366935 "2024-09-23T06:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![abhadauria](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/abhadauria/32/127899_2.png) [@abhadauria](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/abhadauria)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 6:49am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-security-index-while-es-upgrade-from-version-7-to-8/366935/1 "2024-09-23T06:49:17Z")

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I am working on in-place ES version upgrade from ES version 7.17 to ES 8.14, however I am blocked at a place as I see that .security-6 exist in the current cluster, and I am not sure how to upgrade this index in production with zero downtime, and what will be the process to upgrade this security index to .security-7?

can someone please help me here?

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**Author:** ![carly.richmond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/carly.richmond/32/104935_2.png) [@carly.richmond](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/carly.richmond)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 8:53am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-security-index-while-es-upgrade-from-version-7-to-8/366935/2 "2024-09-23T08:53:14Z")

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Hi @abhadauria[,

How are you upgrading from 7.17 to 8.14? Are you using the Upgrade Assistant [as recommended in the documentation](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/setup-upgrade.html#upgrade-index-compatibility)? For 6.x indices, which this will will be, you can use the [archive functionality to import it](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/archive-indices.html).

Hope that helps!

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**Author:** ![abhadauria](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/abhadauria/32/127899_2.png) [@abhadauria](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/abhadauria)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 9:20am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-security-index-while-es-upgrade-from-version-7-to-8/366935/3 "2024-09-23T09:20:26Z")

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thank you for responding @carly.richmond, I am not using upgrade assistant, but following manual steps to reindex older indices and trying to do the same for the security index, is there any way how I can create the upgraded security index(.security-7) and re-index the data from older version, or do we have any documentation, if ES can create new security index, if previous one is closed/missing?

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**Author:** ![TimV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/timv/32/13162_2.png) [@TimV](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/TimV)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-security-index-while-es-upgrade-from-version-7-to-8/366935/4 "2024-09-23T10:56:05Z")

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> [@abhadauria](#):
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> I am not using upgrade assistant

Is there a reason for that? It is the recommended solution to the problem you are facing.

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**Author:** ![abhadauria](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/abhadauria/32/127899_2.png) [@abhadauria](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/abhadauria)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 8:02am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/upgrade-security-index-while-es-upgrade-from-version-7-to-8/366935/5 "2024-10-05T08:02:33Z")

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thanks for all the help here @carly.richmond @TimV , we were able to upgrade the security index using upgrade assistant, however we had to upgrade kibana in our clusters, as we do not use kibana for our prod clusters.