# Uptime alert when Elastic/kibana service is down
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/uptime-alert-when-elastic-kibana-service-is-down/351971
**Category:** Elastic Observability
**Created:** [January 29, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/uptime-alert-when-elastic-kibana-service-is-down/351971 "2024-01-29T09:05:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author:  [@theacodes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/theacodes)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/uptime-alert-when-elastic-kibana-service-is-down/351971/1 "2024-01-29T09:05:37Z")
I've added Elastic and Kibana's URLs to monitors and enabled uptime alerts on Slack.
I want to know if I will get an alert or not if the kibana service is down and not loading on web?
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### Author:  [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)
#### Post date: [January 30, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/uptime-alert-when-elastic-kibana-service-is-down/351971/3 "2024-01-30T23:36:11Z")
Hi @theacodes What are you using to generate the uptime Alerts? What Version are you on?
Hi @yago82 and just to be precise,
@theacodes Kibana Alerts and Actions are managed and executed inside Kibana... watchers are generated and executed in elasticsearch.
So if Kibana is down, Kibana Alerts will not be generated.
So the morale of the story is.... don't self-monitor the elastic stack, that is why the best practice is to monitor a production Elastic Stack with a separate monitoring stack
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### Author:  [@theacodes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/theacodes)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/uptime-alert-when-elastic-kibana-service-is-down/351971/4 "2024-02-01T14:24:44Z")
Thanks for the reply @stephenb
> [@stephenb](#):
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> a separate monitoring stack
can you explain a little bit about **a separate monitoring stack**
**how can I do this....?**
like currently I have one single master node hosted on the production
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### Author:  [@theacodes](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/theacodes)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2024, 4:50am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/uptime-alert-when-elastic-kibana-service-is-down/351971/5 "2024-02-06T04:50:12Z")
Any reply on this?
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### Author:  [@stephenb](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/stephenb)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2024, 5:27am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/uptime-alert-when-elastic-kibana-service-is-down/351971/6 "2024-02-06T05:27:18Z")
Perhaps read this...
> **[Monitor a cluster | Elasticsearch Guide \[8.12\] | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/monitor-elasticsearch-cluster.html)**