# Use centrally managed and local Pipelines together

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/use-centrally-managed-and-local-pipelines-together/147919>\
**Category:** Logstash\
**Created:** [September 10, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/use-centrally-managed-and-local-pipelines-together/147919 "2018-09-10T08:47:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![simioa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@simioa](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/simioa)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/use-centrally-managed-and-local-pipelines-together/147919/1 "2018-09-10T08:47:11Z")

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Hi,

is it possible to use local defined Pipelines and Managed Pipelines together?

In my case, I want to define the Output Pipeline locally, because it is dynamically generated by Puppet.  
So in case of User or URL Updates it is updated automatically.

I want to define Inputs and Filters over Kibana and use Pipeline to Pipeline Communication to send Events to the Output Pipeline.

I already tried using both together, but when I set xpack.management.enabled to true, it ignores locally created Pipelines.  
As soon as i disable this Parameter, Logstash loads Pipelines from the pipelines.yml.

Is this even possible or do I have to manage all Pipelines over Kibana when xpack.management.enabled is set to true?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/use-centrally-managed-and-local-pipelines-together/147919/2 "2018-10-08T08:47:17Z")

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