# Users & Roles Migration **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [January 5, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/users-roles-migration/213786 "2020-01-05T03:17:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![karnamonkster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/karnamonkster/32/67266_2.png) [@karnamonkster](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/karnamonkster)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/users-roles-migration/213786/1 "2020-01-05T03:17:29Z")
Hi, What would be the best way to migrate all my User and Roles from a cluster running 6.8.0 to a new cluster running 7.5? ---
**Author:** ![wylie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/wylie/32/81794_2.png) [@wylie](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/wylie)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/users-roles-migration/213786/2 "2020-01-06T17:22:57Z")
If you are upgrading from 6.8 to 7.5, you should follow the various steps in the [upgrade guide](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elastic-stack/current/upgrading-elastic-stack.html). If you are trying to copy roles from one Elasticsearch cluster to another, that is probably a question for the Elasticsearch forums. Kibana roles are a superset of Elasticsearch roles, so they are permissioned the same way. Here are the APIs you can use for managing security: [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/security-api.html](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/security-api.html) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/users-roles-migration/213786/3 "2020-02-03T17:23:06Z")
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