# Value list entries as a trigger instead of exception

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/value-list-entries-as-a-trigger-instead-of-exception/246747>\
**Category:** SIEM\
**Created:** [August 28, 2020, 11:00am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/value-list-entries-as-a-trigger-instead-of-exception/246747 "2020-08-28T11:00:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![madduck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/madduck/32/63444_2.png) [@madduck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/madduck)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 11:00am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/value-list-entries-as-a-trigger-instead-of-exception/246747/1 "2020-08-28T11:00:58Z")

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Hi gang,

is it possible to use value list as anything other than an exception?  
I have a list of Command and Control servers and would like to get a signal every time an ip address from that value list is part of "destination.address" however I can only see the option to use the list as an exception.

If someone could point me in the right direction that'd be rather nice.

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**Author:** ![madduck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/madduck/32/63444_2.png) [@madduck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/madduck)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/value-list-entries-as-a-trigger-instead-of-exception/246747/2 "2020-08-28T14:22:25Z")

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Doable if you use the "not in list" operator. Then your signal will trigger on every entry in the list.

It is very unintuitive tho.

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**Author:** ![yctercero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/yctercero/32/68560_2.png) [@yctercero](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/yctercero)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/value-list-entries-as-a-trigger-instead-of-exception/246747/3 "2020-08-28T18:35:39Z")

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Hey @madduck !

That certainly is a common use case and you're correct in your follow up post that using the "not in list" operator will result in the functionality you are looking for.

Adding a link to the exceptions [API docs here](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/security/current/exceptions-api-create-exception-item.html) just for reference. They go into a bit more detail and might come in handy!

It's always great to get feedback - appreciate you letting us know your experience with the exceptions.

Best,  
Yara

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/value-list-entries-as-a-trigger-instead-of-exception/246747/4 "2020-09-25T18:35:49Z")

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