# Very open Elasticsearch installation

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**Created:** [January 8, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/very-open-elasticsearch-installation/15152 "2014-01-08T20:45:54Z")\
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I've spent the past six months or so writing and deploying a replacement on  
site search system and we've finally decided it was time to blog about  
it[http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/01/06/wikimedia-moving-to-elasticsearch/](http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/01/06/wikimedia-moving-to-elasticsearch/).  
I figure this list might find this useful because  
everything[http://git.wikimedia.org/summary/?r=mediawiki/extensions/CirrusSearch.git](http://git.wikimedia.org/summary/?r=mediawiki/extensions/CirrusSearch.git)is  
open  
source[http://git.wikimedia.org/tree/operations%2Fpuppet.git/production/modules%2Felasticsearch](http://git.wikimedia.org/tree/operations%2Fpuppet.git/production/modules%2Felasticsearch)and  
public[http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&m=cpu\_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2](http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?c=Elasticsearch%20cluster%20eqiad&m=cpu_report&r=hour&s=by%20name&hc=4&mc=2).  
It looks like we're averaging about  
3000[http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=day&cs=&ce=&m=es\_queries&s=by+name&c=Elasticsearch+cluster+eqiad&h=&host\_regex=&max\_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&hide-hf=false&sh=1&z=small&hc=4](http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=day&cs=&ce=&m=es_queries&s=by+name&c=Elasticsearch+cluster+eqiad&h=&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&hide-hf=false&sh=1&z=small&hc=4)queries  
per second and about  
300[http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=day&cs=&ce=&m=es\_indexes&s=by+name&c=Elasticsearch+cluster+eqiad&h=&host\_regex=&max\_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&hide-hf=false&sh=1&z=small&hc=4](http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=day&cs=&ce=&m=es_indexes&s=by+name&c=Elasticsearch+cluster+eqiad&h=&host_regex=&max_graphs=0&tab=m&vn=&hide-hf=false&sh=1&z=small&hc=4)updates  
per second at the moment which doesn't make us a very big  
installation but we're excited in our own little way. If you have time  
please give it a shot here [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Ricerca](https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Ricerca)or  
here [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:Search](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:Search) or  
here[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search)or, if you don't  
mind somewhat uglier results,  
here [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search). If you notice  
anything fishy please let me know or file a  
bug[https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter\_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=CirrusSearch](https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=CirrusSearch).  
We're a pretty small team but we'll get to everything eventually.

Wish me/us luck. Over the next few months we'll be doubling the number of  
documents indexed and doubling the update rate and ramping up the query  
rate by about an order of magnitude.

Thanks for reading,

Nik

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/very-open-elasticsearch-installation/15152/2 "2014-01-08T20:49:49Z")

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This is really awesome Nik!  
Congrats to your team.

I'm a bit disappointed that this search gives no result: [https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=elasticsearch&fulltext=Search](https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=elasticsearch&fulltext=Search) 🙂

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Le 8 janvier 2014 at 21:46:20, Nikolas Everett ([nik9000@gmail.com](mailto:nik9000@gmail.com)) a écrit:

I've spent the past six months or so writing and deploying a replacement on site search system and we've finally decided it was time to blog about it. I figure this list might find this useful because everything is open source and public. It looks like we're averaging about 3000 queries per second and about 300 updates per second at the moment which doesn't make us a very big installation but we're excited in our own little way. If you have time please give it a shot here or here or here or, if you don't mind somewhat uglier results, here. If you notice anything fishy please let me know or file a bug. We're a pretty small team but we'll get to everything eventually.

Wish me/us luck. Over the next few months we'll be doubling the number of documents indexed and doubling the update rate and ramping up the query rate by about an order of magnitude.

Thanks for reading,

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/very-open-elasticsearch-installation/15152/3 "2014-01-08T21:01:56Z")

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:49 PM, David Pilato [david@pilato.fr](mailto:david@pilato.fr) wrote:

> This is really awesome Nik!  
> Congrats to your team.
> 
> I'm a bit disappointed that this search gives no result:  
> [Search results for "elasticsearch" - Wikisource, the free online library](https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=elasticsearch&fulltext=Search)  
> 🙂

Looks like we don't have any books about Elasticsearch. It does show up  
here:

> **[Risultati della ricerca](https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?fulltext=Searchbut&profile=default&search=elasticsearch&title=Speciale%3ARicerca&ns0=1)**
>
> Per ulteriori informazioni, vedi Aiuto:Ricerca.
>  
> C'è una pagina il cui nome è "Elasticsearch" su Wikipedia. Vedi anche gli altri risultati trovati.

I can't read it. You can also find technical stuff about the  
integration and our rollout plan over here:  
[Search results for "elasticsearch" - MediaWiki](https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=elasticsearch&fulltext=Search).

I'll let you know when you can find  
[Elasticsearch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticsearch) with it but that might take  
some time. There is way too much search traffic for us to be the default  
there.

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/very-open-elasticsearch-installation/15152/4 "2014-01-08T21:22:15Z")

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I can't tell it in other words, but your step to ES is a landmark.

Thank you, Nik, for making this public, this helps me a lot for spreading  
the word for more openness...

[https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=Hello+World&fulltext=Search](https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=Hello+World&fulltext=Search)

The search suggestion is a bit surprising - "he do works" 🙂 but what a  
difference to the old search [https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Spezial:Suche](https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Spezial:Suche)

Jörg

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/very-open-elasticsearch-installation/15152/5 "2014-01-08T21:58:10Z")

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM, [joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com) \<[joergprante@gmail.com](mailto:joergprante@gmail.com)

> wrote:

> I can't tell it in other words, but your step to ES is a landmark.
> 
> Thank you, Nik, for making this public, this helps me a lot for spreading  
> the word for more openness...
> 
> [Search results for "Hello World" - Wikisource, the free online library](https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=Hello+World&fulltext=Search)
> 
> The search suggestion is a bit surprising - "he do works" 🙂 but what a  
> difference to the old search [Suche – Wikisource](https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Spezial:Suche)

Those suggestions are coming from the Title of books and wikisource doesn't  
contain one called Hello World. Elasticsearch actually provides some  
really metal suggestions:  
hell works  
hollow works  
hell world  
hell word  
which are all "better" than hello world. I think there are lots of  
religious texts in there.

Funny thing: the old suggester was surprisingly good. It took a lot of  
effort to get the phrase suggester to the same quality. Honestly I'll need  
to go back and look at the old one again some time and see if there are any  
lessons in there I can move over. I wish I knew what license it had  
though....

When I was first working on the project we were generating suggestions  
using all titles of all articles so you'd search for "noble prize" thinking  
you'd get "nobel prize" but alas, you'd get "none pipe". Templates have  
funny names. You can use the clicky stuff to search the template namespace  
or you can prefix the query with "template:" to search in the template  
namespace. When you do that the search suggestions come from "non content"  
pages. Or you could search on commons which has tons of images named Hello  
World by searching in the file namespace.

Nik

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Nikolas Everett [nik9000@gmail.com](mailto:nik9000@gmail.com) wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:49 PM, David Pilato [david@pilato.fr](mailto:david@pilato.fr) wrote:
> 
> > I'm a bit disappointed that this search gives no result:  
> > [Search results for "elasticsearch" - Wikisource, the free online library](https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=elasticsearch&fulltext=Search)  
> > 🙂
> > 
> > I'll let you know when you can find  
> > [Elasticsearch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elasticsearch) with it but that might take  
> > some time. There is way too much search traffic for us to be the default  
> > there.

We started indexing [en.wikipedia.org](http://en.wikipedia.org) so the index contains the first 10  
million pages or so and all pages that have been directly edited in the  
past 22 hours.  
[Elasticsearch - Search results - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Elasticsearch&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&srbackend=CirrusSearch)  
Sadly, the highlighter seems to think that the best section to highlight is  
the references because they contain the word elasticsearch packed tightly  
together. I'm going to have to have a look at that.

Nik

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/very-open-elasticsearch-installation/15152/7 "2014-01-14T15:28:15Z")

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Hi, Nik.

I seem to be getting very good results and getting them quickly. But I do  
notice some results like the following. Note that the query string I  
entered is the title of a book that a good friend (and B-24 navigator  
during WWII) lent me to read a couple of years ago:

Search: soldiers and slaves

_The page "Soldiers and slaves  
 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soldiers\_and\_slaves&action=edit&redlink=1](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soldiers_and_slaves&action=edit&redlink=1)"  
does not exist. You can ask for it to be created  
 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles\_for\_creation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation), but  
consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is  
already covered._  
For search help, please visit Help:Searching[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Searching](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Searching)  
.

- Soldiers and Slaves [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers\_and\_Slaves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_and_Slaves)  
Soldiers and Slaves: American POWs Trapped by the Nazis' Final Gamble is  
a 2005 history of World War II by New York Times reporter Roger _..._

I am not sure why it says that there is no page, when the first response is  
exactly that page. But still, very quick and a joy to use!

Brian

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On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:28 AM, InquiringMind [brian.from.fl@gmail.com](mailto:brian.from.fl@gmail.com)wrote:

> Hi, Nik.
> 
> I seem to be getting very good results and getting them quickly. But I do  
> notice some results like the following. Note that the query string I  
> entered is the title of a book that a good friend (and B-24 navigator  
> during WWII) lent me to read a couple of years ago:
> 
> Search: soldiers and slaves
> 
> _The page "Soldiers and slaves  
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soldiers\_and\_slaves&action=edit&redlink=1](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soldiers_and_slaves&action=edit&redlink=1)"  
> does not exist. You can ask for it to be created  
> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles\_for\_creation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation), but  
> consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is  
> already covered._  
> For search help, please visit Help:Searching[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Searching](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Searching)  
> .
> 
> - Soldiers and Slaves[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers\_and\_Slaves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_and_Slaves)  
> Soldiers and Slaves: American POWs Trapped by the Nazis' Final Gamble  
> is a 2005 history of World War II by New York Times reporter Roger  
> _..._
> 
> I am not sure why it says that there is no page, when the first response  
> is exactly that page. But still, very quick and a joy to use!

Some stuff:  
You might just be using the old search. Right now we're deployed as a  
"secondary" search engine so you have to keep re-adding the  
srbackend=CirrusSearch url parameter. Lame but I have an excuse: the point  
of being a "secondary" search engine is to compare the results with the  
original. Once the index is finished building we'll make it a BetaFeature  
which means if you log in you can click the "beta" tab and enable it for  
all your searches. Sorry I didn't mention it earlier.

I couldn't tell you why the old search is claiming that the page doesn't  
exist. It is more black boxy so I can't just issue my own queries against  
it with something like Sense. That has been one of the real advantages of  
the Elaticsearch solution because it lets me prototype new features against  
the production index really easily and it helps a ton with debugging.

We hadn't indexed that page yet so I indexed it manually and now:

> **[Search results](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?fulltext=1&search=soldiers%2Band%2Bslaves&srbackend=CirrusSearch&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1)**
>
> The page "Soldiers and slaves" does not exist. You can create a draft and submit it for review or request that a redirect be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered.

You can see that it is the first result and you can see that we don't  
highlighting "and" because it is a stop word. At some point soon I'll be  
switching to matching on both my plain analyzed copy and my stemmed/stop  
worded copy so stop words will start getting highlighted. It should look  
something like:

> **[Search results](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?fulltext=Search&profile=default&search=%22soldiers%2Band%2Bslaves%22&srbackend=CirrusSearch&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1)**
>
> The pages "soldiers and slaves" and '"soldiers and slaves"' do not exist. You can create a draft and submit it for review or request that a redirect be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered.

Nik

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