# Visual Builder default index

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visual-builder-default-index/191020>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [July 17, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visual-builder-default-index/191020 "2019-07-17T14:06:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![jmartori](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jmartori/32/36981_2.png) [@jmartori](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jmartori)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visual-builder-default-index/191020/1 "2019-07-17T14:06:43Z")

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Does anyone know what to change the default index in visual builder from '\*' to something more restrained. We are having problems every time we try to create a new visualization with it, as it try to read all the indices.

Thanks for your help,

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**Author:** ![lukas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/lukas/32/6812_2.png) [@lukas](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/lukas)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visual-builder-default-index/191020/2 "2019-07-17T23:54:06Z")

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I believe that if you set a default index pattern in Kibana, that's what will be used inside visual builder. Is that not what you're observing?

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**Author:** ![jmartori](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/jmartori/32/36981_2.png) [@jmartori](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jmartori)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visual-builder-default-index/191020/3 "2019-07-19T15:30:03Z")

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Hi Lukas,  
thanks for the reply. However, that isn't it, as we already have a default index pattern, that is not '\*'.

The 'solution' I came up with was to avoid creating a new Visual Builder by using an already existing, empty, visualization of the Visual Builder type with a default index different than '\*'. Then you can "Save As" with the new name for your visualization.

I hope that they'll eventually add the default property into some configuration space.

Once again thanks for the interest

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visual-builder-default-index/191020/4 "2019-08-16T15:30:06Z")

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