# Visualizing data with no indexing **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visualizing-data-with-no-indexing/61122 "2016-09-21T11:58:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jdmac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@jdmac](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jdmac)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 11:58am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visualizing-data-with-no-indexing/61122/1 "2016-09-21T11:58:00Z")
Hi All, I originally posted a thread in the ElasticSearch forum ([Pulling values for properties that have index set to "no"](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/pulling-values-for-properties-that-have-index-set-to-no/61106)), ultimately the question now comes over to the Kibana side. So, I'm trying to understand as per blogs on using ES as a time series DB, how would you use Kibana to visualize data that has `{ "doc_values": true, "index": "no" }` and \_source and \_all is disabled? It seems to work provided I keep \_source enabled and do not set index to "no". But I really don't want to index the data and just store it as raw values that can be pulled so there's no long term overhead. Unless this is the wrong approach? > **[Elasticsearch as a Time Series Data Store | Elastic](https://www.elastic.co/blog/elasticsearch-as-a-time-series-data-store)** > > As the project manager of stagemonitor, an open source performance monitoring tool, I've recently been looking for a database to replace the cool-but-aging Graphite Time Series DataBase (TSDB) as the ... > **[Elasticsearch as a Time Series Database - Part 2 - Getting Stats In](http://engineering.laterooms.com/elasticsearch-as-a-time-series-database-part-2-getting-stats-in/)** > > Elasticsearch as a Time Series Database - Part 2 - Getting Stats In Rather some time ago, I posed a question: is using Elasticsearch as a Time Series Database possible, I even had reasons! Since then, I’ve been hard at work attempting to answer that... Many thanks, jdmac ---
**Author:** ![thomasneirynck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/thomasneirynck/32/23313_2.png) [@thomasneirynck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/thomasneirynck)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visualizing-data-with-no-indexing/61122/2 "2016-09-21T19:31:31Z")
Hi jdmac, perhaps it depends on your specific data. I tried the sample data that cbuescher suggested here [Pulling values for properties that have index set to "no"](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/pulling-values-for-properties-that-have-index-set-to-no/61106/2). That works in Kibana 5.0, even though indexing is turned of. e.g.: on the count field: (not indexed) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/2X/9/9b494c3c36db5368a51afec0977335a14eb27250.png) or the age field: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/2X/2/2981e2bda9e57912c6d82d48a012de3c9f04d419.png) Is that what you are looking to do? ---
**Author:** ![jdmac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@jdmac](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jdmac)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visualizing-data-with-no-indexing/61122/3 "2016-09-21T19:47:14Z")
Hi Thomas, I am trying to use kibana (or grafana) in order to visualize the data at all but they are not available to select. I am using kibana 4.5.x at the moment since 5 is still alpha. Am I right to say your screen capture shows you using scripted fields? Is that the requirement I must do also? Thanks, Jdmac ---
**Author:** ![thomasneirynck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/thomasneirynck/32/23313_2.png) [@thomasneirynck](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/thomasneirynck)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visualizing-data-with-no-indexing/61122/4 "2016-09-21T20:08:59Z")
no it's not a requirement to use scripted fields. it's just the alpha 5, which has improvements for handling doc\_values. There's no set dates yet, but the beta should be out soon, which will be more stable, and RCs and final should follow up reasonable quickly. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/visualizing-data-with-no-indexing/61122/5 "2017-07-06T13:38:33Z")