# Waiting for Marvel Data.... No Data **URL:** \ **Category:** Kibana\ **Tags:** elastic-stack-monitoring\ **Created:** [May 21, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631 "2016-05-21T20:21:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/1 "2016-05-21T20:21:39Z")
While trying to resolve an issue where the node names where showing up as the node ID numbers it was suggested that I remove the Marvel indexes and the .marvel-es-data file. After doing so data is no longer showing up in Marvel. I receive the message: > Waiting for Marvel Data > It appears that we have not received any data for this cluster. Marvel data is sent every 10 seconds by the agent plugin; once the data appears this page will automatically redirect to the overview page .marvel-es-data is no longer listed as an index, but there is a .marvel-es-data-1 ``` curl -XGET http://p-es-1:9200/_cat/indices?v green open .marvel-es-data-1 1 1 9 290 55kb 27.3kb green open .marvel-es-1-2016.05.20 1 1 70242 450 66.5mb 33.2mb green open .marvel-es-1-2016.05.21 1 1 280214 1264 287.9mb 143.8mb ``` So im looking for a little insight on how to get Marvel back and running as normal. ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 9:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/2 "2016-05-23T09:30:23Z")
Anything in your ES logs? ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/3 "2016-05-23T16:11:18Z")
I am not able to find anything within the ES logs related any issues with Marvel ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/4 "2016-05-23T17:36:44Z")
What version of Kibana and the Marvel UI plugin are you running? You are running ES 2.3.x based on those Marvel index names. It should be Kibana 4.5.x and Marvel UI 2.3.x based on those index names. ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/5 "2016-05-23T18:11:43Z")
ES and Marvel are all 2.3 and Kibana is 4.3.1 Marvel didnt have any issues with Kibana 4.3.1 until I tried to resolve the node name issue by removing the Marvel indexes and the .marvel-es-data file ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/6 "2016-06-01T14:57:37Z")
I am still looking for a little guidance with this issue. Marvel has not been viewable for over a week now. I can see that indexes are still being created, so it seems to just be related to something with the UI. ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/7 "2016-06-01T21:03:20Z")
Jason, Sorry! I didn't see your initial response. The issue is that you're using the wrong version of Kibana. Elasticsearch 2.3.x should be used with Kibana 4.5.y (generically, the version of Kibana is the version of ES + 2.2; so ES 2.0 requires Kibana 4.2, ES 2.1 requires Kibana 4.3, etc.). The plugin for the Marvel UI, should match _exactly_ what you're using with Elasticsearch, which itself should match exactly the version of Elasticsearch. As you're running ES 2.3.x, you need to run the `marvel-agent` plugin version 2.3.x (you will be because of how ES plugins work). From there, you should upgrade Kibana to 4.5.1 (latest) and install the associated version of the `marvel` UI plugin for it associated with ES 2.3.x. Assuming you're running ES 2.3.1, then you could install it as: ```auto $ bin/kibana plugin --install elasticsearch/marvel/2.3.1 ``` Settings should stay the same. This also provides an updated version of Kibana with a security fix for node.js, which is bundled with it. You can quickly check your version of ES by checking: ```auto $ curl -XGET p-es-1:9200/ ``` This should provide the `version.number` to indicate what you need to grab for Kibana. ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/8 "2016-06-01T21:04:54Z")
As a note: this versioning craziness will go away with Kibana 5 and Elasticsearch 5. Once we release those versions, all versions will be in alignment, from the plugins to the applications themselves. ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/9 "2016-06-01T21:36:05Z")
Thanks for getting back to me Chris. So I did as you suggested and removed and reinstalled the version to match Elasticsearch. Here is the results of the install. ``` -> Installing marvel-agent... Trying https://download.elastic.co/elasticsearch/release/org/elasticsearch/plugin/marvel-agent/2.3.3/marvel-agent-2.3.3.zip ... Downloading ..........DONE Verifying https://download.elastic.co/elasticsearch/release/org/elasticsearch/plugin/marvel-agent/2.3.3/marvel-agent-2.3.3.zip checksums if available ... Downloading .DONE @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ WARNING: plugin requires additional permissions @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ * java.lang.RuntimePermission setFactory * javax.net.ssl.SSLPermission setHostnameVerifier See http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/security/permissions.html for descriptions of what these permissions allow and the associated risks. Continue with installation? [y/N]y Installed marvel-agent into /usr/share/elasticsearch/plugins/marvel-agent ``` As you can see its isntalling version 2.3.3, which matches the version of ES that I am running. ``` { "name" : "p-es-1", "cluster_name" : "Elasticsearch-Cluster-1", "version" : { "number" : "2.3.3", "build_hash" : "218bdf10790eef486ff2c41a3df5cfa32dadcfde", "build_timestamp" : "2016-05-17T15:40:04Z", "build_snapshot" : false, "lucene_version" : "5.5.0" }, "tagline" : "You Know, for Search" } ``` I am still getting the message that Marvel is waiting for data. ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/10 "2016-06-01T21:39:47Z")
You restarted ES, right? ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/11 "2016-06-01T21:41:29Z")
Hi Jason, I think the confusion here might be around Marvel itself, and particularly how it changed in version 1.x to 2.x. - In Marvel 1.x, it was _both_ the UI and the "agent" that collected data within Elasticsearch itself. - In Marvel 2.x, it is split into two plugins: - `marvel-agent` as you just installed is for collecting Elasticsearch data and sending it somewhere. - `marvel` UI, which is the _Kibana_ plugin. The issue here appears to be entirely related to the UI, which relates solely to the `marvel` UI plugin and Kibana itself. The `marvel-agent` sounds like it is/was working (which as Mark noted, requires a restart to take effect, but I expect it to not change anything). Can you try setting up an instance of Kibana 4.5.1 with the `marvel` UI plugin? You don't have to replace your existing installation until you confirm that it fixes your issue. Let me know. ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/12 "2016-06-01T21:48:31Z")
I tried removing Marvel and not Marvel-Plugin with the following result ``` -> Removing marvel... Plugin marvel not found. Run "plugin list" to get list of installed plugins. ``` I tried to see if I needed to reinstall it with the following result ``` -> Installing marvel... Trying https://download.elastic.co/elasticsearch/release/org/elasticsearch/plugin/marvel/2.3.3/marvel-2.3.3.zip ... Failed: FileNotFoundException[https://download.elastic.co/elasticsearch/release/org/elasticsearch/plugin/marvel/2.3.3/marvel-2.3.3.zip]; nested: FileNotFoundException[https://download.elastic.co/elasticsearch/release/org/elasticsearch/plugin/marvel/2.3.3/marvel-2.3.3.zip]; ERROR: failed to download out of all possible locations..., use --verbose to get detailed information ``` Rebooting didnt seem to resolve the issues either. ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/13 "2016-06-01T21:53:55Z")
Jason, The `marvel` UI plugin is in _Kibana_, not Elasticsearch. You need to mess with Kibana by installing Kibana 4.5.1 and the marvel plugin there following the instructions above. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/14 "2016-06-02T17:50:55Z")
Oh I see, im running a incapable version of Kibana. I guess I never added the Kibana repo so it isnt getting any updates. I originally installed Kibana manually and just now added the repo following these instructions: [https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/4.5/setup.html#setup-repositories](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/4.5/setup.html#setup-repositories) Yum is still not seeing that there is an update for Kibana. Do I need to install the update manually? ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/15 "2016-06-07T18:38:05Z")
Hi Jason, Sorry for the delay. But yes, you should just override the install by removing the existing installation, then installing the updated version on top of it. The Kibana repo is a little unusual in that it changes the repository with each release (note that it adds 4.5 to the repository name). This technically means that they're not really associated as well as they could be (e.g., [Elasticsearch's RPM / DEB packages use 2.x instead of having one for 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc.](https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/2.3/setup-repositories.html#setup-repositories)). This will be fixed in 5.x where there repo will be "5.x" instead of "5.0", "5.1", etc. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/16 "2016-06-07T23:22:30Z")
Won't I lose all existing dashboards and widgets if I uninstall the current version? Jason Petty Systems Administrator Information Technology UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine 530-752-2271 (o) ---
**Author:** ![pickypg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/pickypg/32/62409_2.png) [@pickypg](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/pickypg)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/17 "2016-06-07T23:33:05Z")
No. Kibana does not store things in its local file store. Instead, it uses Elasticsearch as its data store, so upgrading is as simple as backing up any configuration changes that you've made and re-installing any Kibana plugins (most plugins are not expected to work across minor releases, such as 4.3 to 4.4 or 4.5). Conveniently, you _can_ test this out by installing Kibana 4.5 manually (download the tar and extract it) without touching Kibana 4.3. As long as Kibana 4.3 is not running, then you can quickly confirm that you still have all of the dashboards by connecting to the same Elasticsearch cluster (you can confirm it even if Kibana 4.3 is running, but then you need to either install it on another machine, which is fine(!) or change its startup port from the default of `5601`). ---
**Author:** ![FreeTymeKiyan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/freetymekiyan/32/7388_2.png) [@FreeTymeKiyan](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/FreeTymeKiyan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/19 "2016-08-31T00:37:24Z")
I also had the problem on my cluster and came up with a quick fix. Basically, The latest version of Elasticsearch plugin marvel-agent creates index named ".marvel-es-data-1", and old versions of Kibana marvel plugin read from ".marvel-es-data". So it cannot find any marvel data and the dashboard won't show. Adding an alias ".marvel-es-data" and point it to ".marvel-es-data-1" will recover your dashboard: ```auto curl -XPOST "http://p-es-1:9200/_aliases" -d ' { "actions": { { "add": { "index": ".marvel-es-data-1", "alias": ".marvel-es-data" } } } } ' ``` ---
**Author:** ![bohyun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/bohyun/32/10087_2.png) [@bohyun](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/bohyun)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/20 "2016-08-31T14:14:00Z")
Thanks Yang for posting the work-around solution! ---
**Author:** ![jnpetty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@jnpetty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/jnpetty)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631/21 "2016-08-31T15:06:54Z")
Hi Yang, Sorry if this is a newbie question, im still very new to ELK. So when I run that command I get the following error: {"error":{"root\_cause":[{"type":"parse\_exception","reason":"Failed to derive xcontent"}],"type":"parse\_exception","reason":"Failed to derive xcontent"},"status":400} ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/2X/2/2485d26919316b1d80aa60f5ca8e2cb5bc0275fe.jpg) [Next page](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/waiting-for-marvel-data-no-data/50631.md?page=2)