# What is ES / Marvel doing to my configurations? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [January 6, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-es-marvel-doing-to-my-configurations/21496 "2015-01-06T04:11:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chris\_Neal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chris_neal/32/3527_2.png) [@Chris\_Neal](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Chris_Neal)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-es-marvel-doing-to-my-configurations/21496/1 "2015-01-06T04:11:32Z")
Hi all. My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: index: codec: bloom: load: false merge: policy: max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 max\_merged\_segment: 1gb segments\_per\_tier: 4 type: tiered scheduler: max\_thread\_count: 1 type: concurrent number\_of\_replicas: 0 number\_of\_shards: 1 refresh\_interval: 5s My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping [cluster\_state] (dynamic) [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, but I'm not sure why. Does anyone have an idea? Much appreciated! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAND3DpjXD1XqRUDxQt5zOoG-ho%2BdRrUgY5ejKw9%2BXMy\_sbYkLA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAND3DpjXD1XqRUDxQt5zOoG-ho%2BdRrUgY5ejKw9%2BXMy_sbYkLA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2015, 7:05am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-es-marvel-doing-to-my-configurations/21496/2 "2015-01-06T07:05:55Z")
index level settings will override cluster level ones. On 6 January 2015 at 15:11, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > Hi all. > > My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: > > index: > codec: > bloom: > load: false > merge: > policy: > max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 > max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 > max\_merged\_segment: 1gb > segments\_per\_tier: 4 > type: tiered > scheduler: > max\_thread\_count: 1 > type: concurrent > number\_of\_replicas: 0 > number\_of\_shards: 1 > refresh\_interval: 5s > > My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: > > [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping > [cluster\_state] (dynamic) > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, but > I'm not sure why. Does anyone have an idea? > > Much appreciated! > Chris > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAND3DpjXD1XqRUDxQt5zOoG-ho%2BdRrUgY5ejKw9%2BXMy\_sbYkLA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAND3DpjXD1XqRUDxQt5zOoG-ho%2BdRrUgY5ejKw9%2BXMy_sbYkLA%40mail.gmail.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAND3DpjXD1XqRUDxQt5zOoG-ho%2BdRrUgY5ejKw9%2BXMy\_sbYkLA%40mail.gmail.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAND3DpjXD1XqRUDxQt5zOoG-ho%2BdRrUgY5ejKw9%2BXMy_sbYkLA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X\_JdfH3SzG1OwYk4TH6z7q%2BZgFyA\_qNzUjwOE8Xt959cw%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAEYi1X_JdfH3SzG1OwYk4TH6z7q%2BZgFyA_qNzUjwOE8Xt959cw%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Neal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chris_neal/32/3527_2.png) [@Chris\_Neal](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Chris_Neal)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-es-marvel-doing-to-my-configurations/21496/3 "2015-01-07T02:47:22Z")
Thanks Mark. To my knowledge, I've never applied any index level settings. Any idea where they might be coming from? Even my "regular" ES cluster (I have Marvel on a separate cluster) is undoing my settings: [2015-01-06 23:58:34,991][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] Querying the index settings doesn't show anything specific either: root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1005]:~/elasticsearch\> curl -XGET ' [http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/\_settings](http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/_settings)' {"test-20150106":{"settings":{"index":{"creation\_date":"1420502319287","uuid":"yuHSFauVTL-SwKVAwaRdCg","number\_of\_replicas":"1","number\_of\_shards":"3","version":{"created":"1040199"}}}}} root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1006]:~/elasticsearch\> I'm still stumped! Thanks so much for your time! Chris On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) wrote: > index level settings will override cluster level ones. > > On 6 January 2015 at 15:11, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > > My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: > > > > index: > > codec: > > bloom: > > load: false > > merge: > > policy: > > max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 > > max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 > > max\_merged\_segment: 1gb > > segments\_per\_tier: 4 > > type: tiered > > scheduler: > > max\_thread\_count: 1 > > type: concurrent > > number\_of\_replicas: 0 > > number\_of\_shards: 1 > > refresh\_interval: 5s > > > > My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping > > [cluster\_state] (dynamic) > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, but > > I'm not sure why. 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**Author:** ![Chris\_Neal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chris_neal/32/3527_2.png) [@Chris\_Neal](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Chris_Neal)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-es-marvel-doing-to-my-configurations/21496/4 "2015-01-07T02:59:00Z")
I also found this very old post: [http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html](http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html) This thread talks about the configuration working when it is applied on a master node when the index is created. I have the configuration on _all_ nodes in the cluster, master or not, and they are still being overwritten by some mysterious method. I'm not sure if a 3 year old post is even still valid, but wanted to mention it. I could always just move the configuration settings into the index template, but I want to understand why the configuration file is not applying, when I don't have any index specific settings! Again, thanks for reading 🙂 Chris On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > Thanks Mark. > > To my knowledge, I've never applied any index level settings. Any idea > where they might be coming from? Even my "regular" ES cluster (I have > Marvel on a separate cluster) is undoing my settings: > > [2015-01-06 23:58:34,991][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > Querying the index settings doesn't show anything specific either: > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1005]:~/elasticsearch\> curl -XGET ' > [http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/\_settings](http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/_settings)' > > {"test-20150106":{"settings":{"index":{"creation\_date":"1420502319287","uuid":"yuHSFauVTL-SwKVAwaRdCg","number\_of\_replicas":"1","number\_of\_shards":"3","version":{"created":"1040199"}}}}} > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1006]:~/elasticsearch\> > > I'm still stumped! > Thanks so much for your time! > Chris > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) wrote: > > > index level settings will override cluster level ones. > > > > On 6 January 2015 at 15:11, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: > > > > > > index: > > > codec: > > > bloom: > > > load: false > > > merge: > > > policy: > > > max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 > > > max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 > > > max\_merged\_segment: 1gb > > > segments\_per\_tier: 4 > > > type: tiered > > > scheduler: > > > max\_thread\_count: 1 > > > type: concurrent > > > number\_of\_replicas: 0 > > > number\_of\_shards: 1 > > > refresh\_interval: 5s > > > > > > My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping > > > [cluster\_state] (dynamic) > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, but > > > I'm not sure why. 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Generally index settings on the cluster level are over written by settings specified at the index level which appears to be what is happening. Though I just checked a marvel mapping and I cannot see where that is set, so I'm not much more help there I am afraid, someone else should have a better idea. On 7 January 2015 at 13:59, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > I also found this very old post: > > [http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html](http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html) > > This thread talks about the configuration working when it is applied on a > master node when the index is created. I have the configuration on _all_ > nodes in the cluster, master or not, and they are still being overwritten > by some mysterious method. > > I'm not sure if a 3 year old post is even still valid, but wanted to > mention it. I could always just move the configuration settings into the > index template, but I want to understand why the configuration file is not > applying, when I don't have any index specific settings! > > Again, thanks for reading 🙂 > Chris > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > wrote: > > > Thanks Mark. > > > > To my knowledge, I've never applied any index level settings. Any idea > > where they might be coming from? Even my "regular" ES cluster (I have > > Marvel on a separate cluster) is undoing my settings: > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:34,991][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > Querying the index settings doesn't show anything specific either: > > > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1005]:~/elasticsearch\> curl -XGET ' > > [http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/\_settings](http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/_settings)' > > > > {"test-20150106":{"settings":{"index":{"creation\_date":"1420502319287","uuid":"yuHSFauVTL-SwKVAwaRdCg","number\_of\_replicas":"1","number\_of\_shards":"3","version":{"created":"1040199"}}}}} > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1006]:~/elasticsearch\> > > > > I'm still stumped! > > Thanks so much for your time! > > Chris > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > index level settings will override cluster level ones. > > > > > > On 6 January 2015 at 15:11, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: > > > > > > > > index: > > > > codec: > > > > bloom: > > > > load: false > > > > merge: > > > > policy: > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 > > > > max\_merged\_segment: 1gb > > > > segments\_per\_tier: 4 > > > > type: tiered > > > > scheduler: > > > > max\_thread\_count: 1 > > > > type: concurrent > > > > number\_of\_replicas: 0 > > > > number\_of\_shards: 1 > > > > refresh\_interval: 5s > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: > > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping > > > > [cluster\_state] (dynamic) > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > > > It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, but > > > > I'm not sure why. 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Thanks again Mark. Hopefully someone will chime in on this one. The default settings are too much for the development environment I'm in, and causing some memory issues. I'd really like to find out why the index settings are there, and how to remove them! Chris On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) wrote: > Generally index settings on the cluster level are over written by settings > specified at the index level which appears to be what is happening. > > Though I just checked a marvel mapping and I cannot see where that is set, > so I'm not much more help there I am afraid, someone else should have a > better idea. > > On 7 January 2015 at 13:59, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > > > I also found this very old post: > > > > [http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html](http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html) > > > > This thread talks about the configuration working when it is applied on a > > master node when the index is created. I have the configuration on _all_ > > nodes in the cluster, master or not, and they are still being overwritten > > by some mysterious method. > > > > I'm not sure if a 3 year old post is even still valid, but wanted to > > mention it. I could always just move the configuration settings into the > > index template, but I want to understand why the configuration file is not > > applying, when I don't have any index specific settings! > > > > Again, thanks for reading 🙂 > > Chris > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks Mark. > > > > > > To my knowledge, I've never applied any index level settings. Any idea > > > where they might be coming from? Even my "regular" ES cluster (I have > > > Marvel on a separate cluster) is undoing my settings: > > > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:34,991][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > Querying the index settings doesn't show anything specific either: > > > > > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1005]:~/elasticsearch\> curl -XGET ' > > > [http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/\_settings](http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/_settings)' > > > > > > {"test-20150106":{"settings":{"index":{"creation\_date":"1420502319287","uuid":"yuHSFauVTL-SwKVAwaRdCg","number\_of\_replicas":"1","number\_of\_shards":"3","version":{"created":"1040199"}}}}} > > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1006]:~/elasticsearch\> > > > > > > I'm still stumped! > > > Thanks so much for your time! > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > index level settings will override cluster level ones. > > > > > > > > On 6 January 2015 at 15:11, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: > > > > > > > > > > index: > > > > > codec: > > > > > bloom: > > > > > load: false > > > > > merge: > > > > > policy: > > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 > > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 > > > > > max\_merged\_segment: 1gb > > > > > segments\_per\_tier: 4 > > > > > type: tiered > > > > > scheduler: > > > > > max\_thread\_count: 1 > > > > > type: concurrent > > > > > number\_of\_replicas: 0 > > > > > number\_of\_shards: 1 > > > > > refresh\_interval: 5s > > > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: > > > > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping > > > > > [cluster\_state] (dynamic) > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > > > > > It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, > > > > > but I'm not sure why. 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I hate to bump my own thread, but I still have not been able to figure this one out. Just wanted to put it in front of people's eyes again in hopes that someone might have an idea where these index settings are coming from. Thanks everyone. On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > Thanks again Mark. > > Hopefully someone will chime in on this one. The default settings are too > much for the development environment I'm in, and causing some memory > issues. I'd really like to find out why the index settings are there, and > how to remove them! > > Chris > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Generally index settings on the cluster level are over written by > > settings specified at the index level which appears to be what is happening. > > > > Though I just checked a marvel mapping and I cannot see where that is > > set, so I'm not much more help there I am afraid, someone else should have > > a better idea. > > > > On 7 January 2015 at 13:59, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > > > > > I also found this very old post: > > > > > > [http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html](http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html) > > > > > > This thread talks about the configuration working when it is applied on > > > a master node when the index is created. I have the configuration on _all_ > > > nodes in the cluster, master or not, and they are still being overwritten > > > by some mysterious method. > > > > > > I'm not sure if a 3 year old post is even still valid, but wanted to > > > mention it. I could always just move the configuration settings into the > > > index template, but I want to understand why the configuration file is not > > > applying, when I don't have any index specific settings! > > > > > > Again, thanks for reading 🙂 > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Mark. > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, I've never applied any index level settings. Any idea > > > > where they might be coming from? Even my "regular" ES cluster (I have > > > > Marvel on a separate cluster) is undoing my settings: > > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:34,991][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > > > Querying the index settings doesn't show anything specific either: > > > > > > > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1005]:~/elasticsearch\> curl -XGET ' > > > > [http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/\_settings](http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/_settings)' > > > > > > > > {"test-20150106":{"settings":{"index":{"creation\_date":"1420502319287","uuid":"yuHSFauVTL-SwKVAwaRdCg","number\_of\_replicas":"1","number\_of\_shards":"3","version":{"created":"1040199"}}}}} > > > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1006]:~/elasticsearch\> > > > > > > > > I'm still stumped! > > > > Thanks so much for your time! > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > index level settings will override cluster level ones. > > > > > > > > > > On 6 January 2015 at 15:11, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: > > > > > > > > > > > > index: > > > > > > codec: > > > > > > bloom: > > > > > > load: false > > > > > > merge: > > > > > > policy: > > > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 > > > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 > > > > > > max\_merged\_segment: 1gb > > > > > > segments\_per\_tier: 4 > > > > > > type: tiered > > > > > > scheduler: > > > > > > max\_thread\_count: 1 > > > > > > type: concurrent > > > > > > number\_of\_replicas: 0 > > > > > > number\_of\_shards: 1 > > > > > > refresh\_interval: 5s > > > > > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: > > > > > > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping > > > > > > [cluster\_state] (dynamic) > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > > > > > > > It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, > > > > > > but I'm not sure why. 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**Author:** ![Chris\_Neal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/chris_neal/32/3527_2.png) [@Chris\_Neal](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Chris_Neal)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:32am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-es-marvel-doing-to-my-configurations/21496/8 "2015-01-13T07:32:55Z")
Even more interesting is that using the head plugin, I can see that all the settings on each server JVM seem to report that the index level settings are what I want them to be, but they still are getting changed to some other values... - settings: { - index: { - codec: { - bloom: { - load: false } } - number\_of\_replicas: 1 - number\_of\_shards: 6 - translog: { - flush\_threshold\_size: 1GB } - search: { - slowlog: { - threshold: { - fetch: { - warn: 2s - info: 1s } - index: { - warn: 10s - info: 5s } - query: { - warn: 10s - info: 5s } } } } - refresh\_interval: 60s - merge: { - scheduler: { - type: concurrent - max\_thread\_count: 1 } - policy: { - type: tiered - max\_merged\_segment: 1gb - max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 - max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 - segments\_per\_tier: 4 } } } - bootstrap: { - mlockall: true } - [2015-01-13 02:12:52,062][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-test] [test-20150113][1] updating [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] [2015-01-13 02:12:52,062][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-test] [test-20150113][1] updating [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] [2015-01-13 02:12:52,062][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-test] [test-20150113][1] updating [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] [2015-01-13 02:12:52,062][INFO][index.merge.policy] [elasticsearch-test] [test-20150113][1] updating [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] This is quite strange. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > I hate to bump my own thread, but I still have not been able to figure > this one out. Just wanted to put it in front of people's eyes again in > hopes that someone might have an idea where these index settings are coming > from. > > Thanks everyone. > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > wrote: > > > Thanks again Mark. > > > > Hopefully someone will chime in on this one. The default settings are > > too much for the development environment I'm in, and causing some memory > > issues. I'd really like to find out why the index settings are there, and > > how to remove them! > > > > Chris > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) > > wrote: > > > > > Generally index settings on the cluster level are over written by > > > settings specified at the index level which appears to be what is happening. > > > > > > Though I just checked a marvel mapping and I cannot see where that is > > > set, so I'm not much more help there I am afraid, someone else should have > > > a better idea. > > > > > > On 7 January 2015 at 13:59, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) wrote: > > > > > > > I also found this very old post: > > > > > > > > [http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html](http://elasticsearch-users.115913.n3.nabble.com/How-to-set-max-merged-segment-at-startup-td3282574.html) > > > > > > > > This thread talks about the configuration working when it is applied on > > > > a master node when the index is created. I have the configuration on _all_ > > > > nodes in the cluster, master or not, and they are still being overwritten > > > > by some mysterious method. > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if a 3 year old post is even still valid, but wanted to > > > > mention it. I could always just move the configuration settings into the > > > > index template, but I want to understand why the configuration file is not > > > > applying, when I don't have any index specific settings! > > > > > > > > Again, thanks for reading 🙂 > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mark. > > > > > > > > > > To my knowledge, I've never applied any index level settings. Any > > > > > idea where they might be coming from? Even my "regular" ES cluster (I have > > > > > Marvel on a separate cluster) is undoing my settings: > > > > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:34,991][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > > > [2015-01-06 23:58:35,032][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-45] [test-20150107][0] updating > > > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > > > > > Querying the index settings doesn't show anything specific either: > > > > > > > > > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1005]:~/elasticsearch\> curl -XGET ' > > > > > [http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/\_settings](http://localhost:9200/derbysoft-20150106/_settings)' > > > > > > > > > > {"test-20150106":{"settings":{"index":{"creation\_date":"1420502319287","uuid":"yuHSFauVTL-SwKVAwaRdCg","number\_of\_replicas":"1","number\_of\_shards":"3","version":{"created":"1040199"}}}}} > > > > > root@ip-10-0-0-45:bddevw07[1006]:~/elasticsearch\> > > > > > > > > > > I'm still stumped! > > > > > Thanks so much for your time! > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:05 AM, Mark Walkom [markwalkom@gmail.com](mailto:markwalkom@gmail.com) > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > index level settings will override cluster level ones. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 January 2015 at 15:11, Chris Neal [chris.neal@derbysoft.net](mailto:chris.neal@derbysoft.net) > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.yml file has these settings with regards to merging: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > index: > > > > > > > codec: > > > > > > > bloom: > > > > > > > load: false > > > > > > > merge: > > > > > > > policy: > > > > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once: 4 > > > > > > > max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit: 4 > > > > > > > max\_merged\_segment: 1gb > > > > > > > segments\_per\_tier: 4 > > > > > > > type: tiered > > > > > > > scheduler: > > > > > > > max\_thread\_count: 1 > > > > > > > type: concurrent > > > > > > > number\_of\_replicas: 0 > > > > > > > number\_of\_shards: 1 > > > > > > > refresh\_interval: 5s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My elasticsearch.log file on server startup shows me this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:53,320][INFO][cluster.metadata] > > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06] update\_mapping > > > > > > > [cluster\_state] (dynamic) > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > > [segments\_per\_tier] from [4.0] to [10.0] > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once] from [4] to [10] > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > > [max\_merge\_at\_once\_explicit] from [4] to [30] > > > > > > > [2015-01-06 04:04:56,704][INFO][index.merge.policy] > > > > > > > [elasticsearch-ip-10-0-0-42] [.marvel-2015.01.06][0] updating > > > > > > > [max\_merged\_segment] from [1024.0mb] to [5gb] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It sure looks like ES is overriding what is in the .yml file to me, > > > > > > > but I'm not sure why. 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