# What is the use of advanced settings of previous kibana versions under saved objects of kibana 7.8.0?

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**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [August 16, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-advanced-settings-of-previous-kibana-versions-under-saved-objects-of-kibana-7-8-0/245154 "2020-08-16T15:53:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![shivani\_aggarwal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@shivani\_aggarwal](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shivani_aggarwal)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-advanced-settings-of-previous-kibana-versions-under-saved-objects-of-kibana-7-8-0/245154/1 "2020-08-16T15:53:23Z")

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Hi,

I was using **ELK 6.6.1** stack in k8s environment (having some index patterns saved in kibana index - .kibana\_1) and then **upgraded to 7.0.1 (oss) stack.** Due to this, the saved objects got migrated to .kibana\_2.  
Some new index patterns were then created & saved in 7.0.1 too.  
Now, I have upgraded to 7.8.0 stack, which has migrated the saved objects to a new index .kibana\_3.

> $ curl [https://10.254.97.161:9200/\_cat/indices?v](https://10.254.97.161:9200/_cat/indices?v) -k -uadmin:admin | grep kibana  
> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current  
> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed  
> 100 2337 100 2337 0 0 12867 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 12840  
> green open .kibana\_2 wwMZtDlESc65GXw5idkmHA 1 0 5 1 24.1kb 24.1kb  
> green open .kibana\_1 LRIdE8auTKqUOHoQuubK7Q 1 0 3 0 21.5kb 21.5kb  
> green open .kibana\_3 DpjVMn2FQoSITalOPbzY5Q 1 0 14 1 47.1kb 47.1kb
> 
> $ curl [https://10.254.97.161:9200/\_cat/aliases?v](https://10.254.97.161:9200/_cat/aliases?v) -k -uadmin:admin  
> alias index filter routing.index routing.search is\_write\_index  
> .kibana .kibana\_3 - - - -

Now, upon logging into kibana (7.8.0) UI, under saved objects at http://ip:5601/app/kibana#/management/kibana/objects, apart from the index-patterns created by me previously, I can also see 3 additional objects as - **Advanced Settings [version]**

 ![advanced-settings](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/9/5/952f2647596d8c65f1670c795b5a1b977a772873.png)

Can someone help me understand the use of these saved objects here because the advanced settings for kibana can be modified at /app/kibana#/management/kibana/settings directly.

Also, is it right to have these additional objects of previous versions too (ex 6.6.1, 7.0.1 in my case) and what would be the impact of modifying/deleting these objects here?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![joshdover](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/joshdover/32/42020_2.png) [@joshdover](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/joshdover)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-advanced-settings-of-previous-kibana-versions-under-saved-objects-of-kibana-7-8-0/245154/2 "2020-08-17T21:59:08Z")

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> [@shivani\_aggarwal](#):
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> Can someone help me understand the use of these saved objects here because the advanced settings for kibana can be modified at /app/kibana#/management/kibana/settings directly.

These are available in the Saved Objects UI in order to support exporting these settings to other spaces and/or Kibana deployments. This is the same data that the Advanced Settings UI operates on as well.

> [@shivani\_aggarwal](#):
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> Also, is it right to have these additional objects of previous versions too (ex 6.6.1, 7.0.1 in my case) and what would be the impact of modifying/deleting these objects here?

We currently keep these around to assist in debugging failed upgrades. You should be safe to delete these without any issues. Only the version that corresponds to your current version are actually in-use by Kibana.

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**Author:** ![shivani\_aggarwal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@shivani\_aggarwal](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/shivani_aggarwal)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:41am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-advanced-settings-of-previous-kibana-versions-under-saved-objects-of-kibana-7-8-0/245154/3 "2020-08-19T04:41:56Z")

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Thanks for the clarification @joshdover.  
Infact, on clicking any of the advanced settings saved object, it always redirects to /app/kibana#/management/kibana/settings page only and thus reflects the latest settings corresponding to the current version.  
On exporting the saved objects to a json, I could differentiate between advanced settings of different versions. This, as you said, can help in case of failed upgrades. 👍

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:42am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-advanced-settings-of-previous-kibana-versions-under-saved-objects-of-kibana-7-8-0/245154/4 "2020-09-16T04:42:06Z")

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