# What is the use of title in visState of visualization saved-object
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-title-in-visstate-of-visualization-saved-object/172304
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [March 14, 2019, 10:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-title-in-visstate-of-visualization-saved-object/172304 "2019-03-14T10:06:56Z")
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### Author:  [@Riddhesh](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Riddhesh)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 10:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-title-in-visstate-of-visualization-saved-object/172304/1 "2019-03-14T10:06:56Z")
I'm using kibana 6.3.1, and have a visualization saved-object:
```auto
{
"type": "visualization",
"updated_at": "2019-01-16T11:32:52.531Z",
"visualization": {
"title": "My Pie chart",
"visState": "{\"title\":\"My Pie chart\",\"type\":...}",
"uiStateJSON": "{}",
"description": "",
"savedSearchId": "0b39a6f0-f260-11e8-bb77-7981feeefd13",
"version": 1,
"kibanaSavedObjectMeta": {
"searchSourceJSON": "{\"filter\":[],\"query\":{\"query\":\"\",\"language\":\"lucene\"}}"
}
}
}
```
What is the use of title inside visState which is same as outer title? If I change it, then nothing changes in visualization, and no error is thrown. So what is the use of it? And does it need to be always same as outer title?
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### Author:  [@joshdover](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/joshdover)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-title-in-visstate-of-visualization-saved-object/172304/2 "2019-03-14T18:12:03Z")
Looking through the Kibana source code it looks like this is typically kept in sync with the outer title field, though this could change in future versions I may be of more help if you could explain what you were trying to accomplish.
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### Author:  [@Riddhesh](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Riddhesh)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-title-in-visstate-of-visualization-saved-object/172304/3 "2019-03-15T10:21:23Z")
Thanks for the reply.
I am creating a page similar to managing kibana saved-objects, where we can edit the json. In kibana's management tab(`/app/kibana#/management/kibana/objects`) if I change the outer title and save, it doesn't change the inner title. But editing title from visualize tab(`/app/kibana#/visualize/edit`) changes the inner title as well as you said. Which got me confused that does it need to be same or not and where is it used.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2019, 10:30am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-is-the-use-of-title-in-visstate-of-visualization-saved-object/172304/4 "2019-04-12T10:30:45Z")
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