# What permissions are required in Elastic for Kibana to connect to a remote elastic cluster?

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-permissions-are-required-in-elastic-for-kibana-to-connect-to-a-remote-elastic-cluster/231777>\
**Category:** Kibana\
**Created:** [May 8, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-permissions-are-required-in-elastic-for-kibana-to-connect-to-a-remote-elastic-cluster/231777 "2020-05-08T17:49:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![tallison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/258eb7/32.png) [@tallison](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/tallison)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-permissions-are-required-in-elastic-for-kibana-to-connect-to-a-remote-elastic-cluster/231777/1 "2020-05-08T17:49:24Z")

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I'm trying to connect to a remote elastic cluster from a local Kibana instance. I have read/write access on a single index in the remote elastic cluster but no higher permissions.

I've configured the username and pw for the elastic cluster in kibana's config/kibana.yml, and I've tried this hack: [Connect Kibana to remote Elasticsearch](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/connect-kibana-to-remote-elasticsearch/136900/6)

I'm still getting [warning][savedobjects-service] Unable to connect to Elasticsearch. Error: Access denied.

Do I need higher permissions on the the remote elastic cluster or is this user error?

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Marius\_Dragomir](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/marius_dragomir/32/42087_2.png) [@Marius\_Dragomir](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Marius_Dragomir)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-permissions-are-required-in-elastic-for-kibana-to-connect-to-a-remote-elastic-cluster/231777/2 "2020-05-11T17:01:21Z")

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Hello,

You need to add "kibana\_user" permissions to the user as well, as that is needed in order to have access to the .kibana index.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/what-permissions-are-required-in-elastic-for-kibana-to-connect-to-a-remote-elastic-cluster/231777/3 "2020-06-08T17:04:36Z")

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