# Why default index is .kibana\_1 in Kibana v6.5.0?
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-default-index-is-kibana-1-in-kibana-v6-5-0/157595
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [November 20, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-default-index-is-kibana-1-in-kibana-v6-5-0/157595 "2018-11-20T17:28:26Z")
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### Author:  [@trex](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trex)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-default-index-is-kibana-1-in-kibana-v6-5-0/157595/1 "2018-11-20T17:28:26Z")
Kibana from the git repo [https://github.com/elastic/kibana.git](https://github.com/elastic/kibana.git)
Today I pulled the latest Kibana v6.5.0 from the tag
```
$ cd kibana
$ git checkout v6.5.0
$ git checkout -b branch-6.5.0
$ yarn kbn bootstrap
$ yarn start --oss
```
Run it and discovered that the default index is `.kibana_1` now
```
$ curl -XGET localhost:9200/_cat/indices
green open .kibana_1 K6ocAyklQkuCRTH5950ivQ 1 0 15 0 37.5kb 37.5kb
```
Despite the fact that in the configuration it is still `.kibana`
```
$ grep -rn "kibana.index" kibana/\config/kibana.yml
37:#kibana.index: ".kibana"
```
Why?
I have a Kibana app which stores some docs in `.kibana`. And now it doesn't work because of this.
## Update 1
I uncommented `kibana.index: ".kibana"` option in kibana.yml. Restarted and saw the alias
```
$ curl -XGET localhost:9200/_cat/aliases
.kibana .kibana_1 - - -
```
Then I commented the option, restarted and now I have the alias name conflict.
```
server error [17:35:34.529] [fatal][root] [invalid_alias_name_exception] Invalid alias name [.kibana], an index exists with the same name as the alias, with { index_uuid="cvaJfJ4oQtenKyT5CItDAQ" & index=".kibana" } :: {"path":"/_aliases","query":{},"body":"{\"actions\":[{\"add\":{\"index\":\".kibana_1\",\"alias\":\".kibana\"}}]}","statusCode":400,"response":"{\"error\":{\"root_cause\":[{\"type\":\"invalid_alias_name_exception\",\"reason\":\"Invalid alias name [.kibana], an index exists with the same name as the alias\",\"index_uuid\":\"cvaJfJ4oQtenKyT5CItDAQ\",\"index\":\".kibana\"}],\"type\":\"invalid_alias_name_exception\",\"reason\":\"Invalid alias name [.kibana], an index exists with the same name as the alias\",\"index_uuid\":\"cvaJfJ4oQtenKyT5CItDAQ\",\"index\":\".kibana\"},\"status\":400}"}
at respond (/media/trex/safe1/Development/siren/kibana/node_modules/elasticsearch/src/lib/transport.js:308:15)
at checkRespForFailure (/media/trex/safe1/Development/siren/kibana/node_modules/elasticsearch/src/lib/transport.js:267:7)
at HttpConnector. (/media/trex/safe1/Development/siren/kibana/node_modules/elasticsearch/src/lib/connectors/http.js:165:7)
at IncomingMessage.wrapper (/media/trex/safe1/Development/siren/kibana/node_modules/elasticsearch/node_modules/lodash/lodash.js:4949:19)
at emitNone (events.js:111:20)
at IncomingMessage.emit (events.js:208:7)
at endReadableNT (_stream_readable.js:1064:12)
at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:138:11)
at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:180:9)
FATAL [invalid_alias_name_exception] Invalid alias name [.kibana], an index exists with the same name as the alias, with { index_uuid="cvaJfJ4oQtenKyT5CItDAQ" & index=".kibana" } :: {"path":"/_aliases","query":{},"body":"{\"actions\":[{\"add\":{\"index\":\".kibana_1\",\"alias\":\".kibana\"}}]}","statusCode":400,"response":"{\"error\":{\"root_cause\":[{\"type\":\"invalid_alias_name_exception\",\"reason\":\"Invalid alias name [.kibana], an index exists with the same name as the alias\",\"index_uuid\":\"cvaJfJ4oQtenKyT5CItDAQ\",\"index\":\".kibana\"}],\"type\":\"invalid_alias_name_exception\",\"reason\":\"Invalid alias name [.kibana], an index exists with the same name as the alias\",\"index_uuid\":\"cvaJfJ4oQtenKyT5CItDAQ\",\"index\":\".kibana\"},\"status\":400}"}
```
And there are 2 indices
```
$ curl -XGET localhost:9200/_cat/indices
yellow open .kibana L1EtfI9jTfeKfYS1AnYqIw 5 1 0 0 1.1kb 1.1kb
green open .kibana_1 prPxlavWS12Fq8ZbCMiejQ 1 0 0 0 230b 230b
```
## Update 2
I deleted `.kibana_1`, restarted and now my app works.
There are 2 .kibana\_n indices
```
$ curl -XGET localhost:9200/_cat/indices
green open .kibana_2 gxGBeCbDRK2MieEKnWe8ew 1 0 2 0 9.4kb 9.4kb
green open .kibana_1 J-R87442QY2tzIz2kcgaog 1 0 0 0 230b 230b
```
And 1 alias
```
trex@cave:~/Development/siren/kibana$ curl -XGET localhost:9200/_cat/aliases
.kibana .kibana_2 - - -
```
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### Author:  [@trex](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/trex)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-default-index-is-kibana-1-in-kibana-v6-5-0/157595/2 "2018-11-20T18:03:25Z")
Ok, the problem is that my plugin is trying to create `.kibana` but there is an alias with this name already.
---
### Author:  [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)
#### Post date: [November 20, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-default-index-is-kibana-1-in-kibana-v6-5-0/157595/3 "2018-11-20T20:29:38Z")
I don't know the full details, but we have done this to allow us to use automatic reindex jobs to upgrade dashboards etc in the index for newer versions. So the `.kibana` alias will always point to the newest kibana index.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-default-index-is-kibana-1-in-kibana-v6-5-0/157595/4 "2018-12-18T20:29:42Z")
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