# Why is Kibana 4.0 no longer a status webapp? **URL:** \ **Category:** Elasticsearch\ **Created:** [November 30, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-is-kibana-4-0-no-longer-a-status-webapp/20993 "2014-11-30T17:29:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![burtonator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/burtonator/32/44790_2.png) [@burtonator](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/burtonator)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-is-kibana-4-0-no-longer-a-status-webapp/20993/1 "2014-11-30T17:29:30Z")
Curious why Kibana 4.0 is no longer a static webap and why it requires a Java daemon. Is this strictly required? I guess I'm fine if it is but why? What does the Java daemon provide? I guess I liked that it was a static webapp as it allows for easier integration on our end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/eb9dfdf5-4bd4-41eb-bea7-0029d628ae29%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/eb9dfdf5-4bd4-41eb-bea7-0029d628ae29%40googlegroups.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![warkolm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/warkolm/32/39224_2.png) [@warkolm](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/warkolm)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-is-kibana-4-0-no-longer-a-status-webapp/20993/2 "2014-11-30T21:40:00Z")
There's info from some of the devs in this thread - [https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB#!searchin/logstash-users/kibana/logstash-users/X\_ClBEKH6tk/L9z9i9BOFtUJ](https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB#!searchin/logstash-users/kibana/logstash-users/X_ClBEKH6tk/L9z9i9BOFtUJ) On 1 December 2014 at 04:29, Kevin Burton [burtonator@gmail.com](mailto:burtonator@gmail.com) wrote: > Curious why Kibana 4.0 is no longer a static webap and why it requires a > Java daemon. > > Is this strictly required? I guess I'm fine if it is but why? What does > the Java daemon provide? > > I guess I liked that it was a static webapp as it allows for easier > integration on our end. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elasticsearch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). > To view this discussion on the web visit > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/eb9dfdf5-4bd4-41eb-bea7-0029d628ae29%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/eb9dfdf5-4bd4-41eb-bea7-0029d628ae29%40googlegroups.com) > [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/eb9dfdf5-4bd4-41eb-bea7-0029d628ae29%40googlegroups.com?utm\_medium=email&utm\_source=footer](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/eb9dfdf5-4bd4-41eb-bea7-0029d628ae29%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer) > . > For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAF3ZnZk%3DsXhnEXCZzXzThRnc9J\_N0AYFkHN5WCk4w9VS%2B41KJA%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/CAF3ZnZk%3DsXhnEXCZzXzThRnc9J_N0AYFkHN5WCk4w9VS%2B41KJA%40mail.gmail.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![Matt\_Dainty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/matt_dainty/32/1075_2.png) [@Matt\_Dainty](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/Matt_Dainty)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 10:06am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-is-kibana-4-0-no-longer-a-status-webapp/20993/3 "2014-12-01T10:06:56Z")
- Kevin Burton [burtonator@gmail.com](mailto:burtonator@gmail.com) [2014-11-30 12:29:33]: > Curious why Kibana 4.0 is no longer a static webap and why it requires a > Java daemon. > > Is this strictly required? I guess I'm fine if it is but why? What does > the Java daemon provide? The Java daemon is just because it's a Ruby web application running with JRuby. As the application is Rack-based, you can run it under any Rack-compatible server if you're prepared to hack about with it. From my experimentation I got it running under Apache & Passenger and from what I can tell there's very little that is dynamic; it still is just HTML/Javascript under the hood. There are a couple of URLs that are dynamic although I'm not convinced they could be made static too. It just comes with its own webserver to minimise the barrier to entry. I put my findings and configuration here: > > > As per subject, is it possible to run Kibana 4 using Passenger instead of Puma? when I asked if it was possible. > I guess I liked that it was a static webapp as it allows for easier > integration on our end. Same, I didn't want to run Yet Another Webserver that has fewer features, etc. etc. and I liked how v3 was easy to deploy & integrate. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elasticsearch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com](mailto:elasticsearch+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com). To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/20141201100656.GD28742%40simulant.bodgit-n-scarper.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elasticsearch/20141201100656.GD28742%40simulant.bodgit-n-scarper.com). For more options, visit [https://groups.google.com/d/optout](https://groups.google.com/d/optout). ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-is-kibana-4-0-no-longer-a-status-webapp/20993/4 "2017-07-06T00:46:55Z")