# Why the title of visualization and it's id are different
**URL:** https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435
**Category:** Kibana
**Created:** [March 6, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435 "2017-03-06T02:25:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@star90](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/star90)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435/1 "2017-03-06T02:25:33Z")
in the latest version of kibana, the title and id are different when i create a new visualization or dashboard. how can i make them be same
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### Author:  [@LeeDr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/LeeDr)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435/2 "2017-03-06T02:35:48Z")
I don't think you can. The id is used now so that you can rename visualizations (even if you're already added them to a dashboard).
Why do you want them to match?
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### Author:  [@star90](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/star90)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2017, 9:11am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435/3 "2017-03-07T09:11:02Z")
in my website ,i need the kibana's url to load page.the url contains id of dashboard or visualization so that i have to query the id by its title.,which is so complexed
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### Author:  [@LeeDr](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/LeeDr)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435/4 "2017-03-07T17:32:01Z")
Are you trying to automatically list all the visualizations and dashboards in your website by querying Elasticsearch? Or are you manually adding individual visualizations and dashboards to your website?
Depending on that, maybe I can offer some suggestions.
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### Author:  [@star90](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/star90)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435/5 "2017-03-08T01:39:23Z")
i tried to automatically list dashboards in my website.thx
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### Author:  [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-the-title-of-visualization-and-its-id-are-different/77435/6 "2017-04-05T01:39:36Z")
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