# Why to empDir in elasticsearch and kibana

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-to-empdir-in-elasticsearch-and-kibana/262473>\
**Category:** Elastic Cloud on Kubernetes (ECK)\
**Created:** [January 28, 2021, 10:19am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-to-empdir-in-elasticsearch-and-kibana/262473 "2021-01-28T10:19:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![knagasri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/47e85d/32.png) [@knagasri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/knagasri)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 10:19am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-to-empdir-in-elasticsearch-and-kibana/262473/1 "2021-01-28T10:19:05Z")

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I am using ECK 1.1.0 , I am not defining anywhere in elasticsearch or kibana yaml files for empDir. But after deploying in kubernetes , when I describe pod I can see the below:

```auto
- emptyDir: {}
  name: elastic-internal-elasticsearch-config-local
- emptyDir: {}
  name: elastic-internal-elasticsearch-plugins-local
- emptyDir: {}
  name: elasticsearch-logs

```

kibana

```auto
- emptyDir: {}
  name: kibana-data
- emptyDir: {}
  name: elastic-internal-kibana-config-local

```

why we are using empDir for those?

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**Author:** ![knagasri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/47e85d/32.png) [@knagasri](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/knagasri)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-to-empdir-in-elasticsearch-and-kibana/262473/2 "2021-02-01T09:03:20Z")

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What type of data they were storing. Can we pvc instead of empDir?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/why-to-empdir-in-elasticsearch-and-kibana/262473/3 "2021-03-01T09:03:52Z")

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