# X-Pack on Elastic in the cloud

**URL:** <https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862>\
**Category:** Elasticsearch\
**Created:** [November 22, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862 "2016-11-22T13:38:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![barry1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@barry1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/barry1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/1 "2016-11-22T13:38:49Z")

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I would like to test/use X-Pack on our Elastic cluster, but the plugin page says "Uploading plugins is only available with a premium subscription." Our account manager says it can be done using this Discuss forum?

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/2 "2016-11-22T13:50:28Z")

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If you meant using X-Pack on [cloud.elastic.co](http://cloud.elastic.co), you don't have to install anything. It's already there OOTB. 🙂

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**Author:** ![barry1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@barry1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/barry1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/3 "2016-11-22T14:04:21Z")

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> [@dadoonet](#):
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> OOTB

That's what I understood, yes. But on the plugin page I see "Uploading plugins is only available with a premium subscription."

So how can I start using it then?

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:12pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/4 "2016-11-22T14:12:09Z")

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Which plugin do you want to upload? X-Pack?  
You don't have to. It's already there. So just call `GET _xpack/watcher/stats` on your cluster and you will see for example watcher stats.

Make sense?

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**Author:** ![barry1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@barry1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/barry1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/5 "2016-11-22T14:33:00Z")

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Ehm, not really. In Sense (Kibana) we get this response:

{  
"error": {  
"root\_cause": [  
{  
"type": "security\_exception",  
"reason": "action [indices:data/read/get] is unauthorized for user [kibana4]"  
}  
],  
"type": "security\_exception",  
"reason": "action [indices:data/read/get] is unauthorized for user [kibana4]"  
},  
"status": 403  
}

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**Author:** ![dadoonet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/user_avatar/discuss.elastic.co/dadoonet/32/137187_2.png) [@dadoonet](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/dadoonet)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/6 "2016-11-22T14:51:34Z")

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If you are getting a security exception, it proves that Shield or XPack is installed.

As you are mentioning `Sense` do you run an "old" version of elastic stack? Like before 5.0?  
In that case, you have to choose which plugin you want to install:

![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/2X/8/89f77788b42cac04c7b833464b801c0a1ad00365.jpg)

With 5.0, it's already set.

If you have problems using your cloud instance, please create another thread in #cloud list.

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**Author:** ![barry1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@barry1](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/barry1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/7 "2016-11-22T15:16:35Z")

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Ah, thanks. Found it ( I think). And we'll have a look at updating our cluster also soon.

Thanks for your support!

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/elastic/original/3X/1/a/1ac57faf039f6b580b3f104ef42a2a89e41014de.png) [@system](https://discuss.elastic.co/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://discuss.elastic.co/t/x-pack-on-elastic-in-the-cloud/66862/8 "2016-12-20T15:17:01Z")

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